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Marseille breaks deadlock over Great Mosque (Gigantic mosque for the French)
expatica ^ | MARSEILLE, France, July 6, 2006

Posted on 07/10/2006 11:08:19 AM PDT by dennisw

Marseille breaks deadlock over Great Mosque

MARSEILLE, France, July 6, 2006 (AFP) - The French city of Marseille on Thursday broke a decades-long deadlock over the construction of a Great Mosque in the Mediterranean port, where Muslims make up a quarter of the population.

In a ceremony attended by Muslim, Roman Catholic, Protestant, Jewish and Buddhist leaders, the centre-right mayor of Marseille Jean-Claude Gaudin allocated a plot of land for the mosque, paving the way for the project to begin.

"We wanted to perform this act of justice towards our Muslim compatriots in Marseille, to allow them to build a place of worship like all the other major religions in Marseille," said Gaudin.

It was also about catching up with other major cities

such as Paris, Lyon and Strasbourg, which either have or plan to build Great Mosques, he said.

While Marseille's Muslim community is estimated at around 200,000 people - not all of whom practise their religion - the city's 62 places of worship provide room for only around 13,000 faithful.

Under an agreement to be finalised on July 17, Marseille will make available an 8,000 square-metre (two acre) plot of land in the north of the city to the association in charge of the project, on a 99-year lease.

The plot of land, the site of a former slaughterhouse, is currently used by a company of opera costume designers.

The 2,500-square-metre mosque - to be adapted from the existing buildings in a simple, modern style - will provide room for up to 5,000 faithful, according to architect Abdelouahab Khelif.

Construction work is not expected to start for several years however, since the Muslim community has yet to start collecting the eight to 10 million EUR (10 to 13 million dollars) needed for the project.

The money must come from private donations since the French government cannot finance places of worship under laws on the separation of church and state.

"It is going to take time," said Abdou Diarra, treasurer of the association in charge of the mosque construction work.

Foreign contributions will be tightly monitored and limited to 20 or 30 percent of the total, in order to prevent any single country asserting too much influence over the project, he said.

The first plans for a great mosque in Marseille go back to the 1930s, but the project repeatedly floundered due to divisions within the city's Muslim community, as well as a degree of resistance from the local population.

Marseille city hall finally decided to break the deadlock and provide the land for the project after most - although not quite all - of the city's Muslim groups and trends rallied around the project.


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Can't wait to see how high the minarets are. I could never live in a neighborhood dominated by minarets
1 posted on 07/10/2006 11:08:23 AM PDT by dennisw
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So when do we get to build a church in Saudi Arabia?

If you are in a culture war, you don't win by surrendering.

Either we get the right to build churches there, or they don't get mosques here.

Otherwise, it's a case of "what's mine is mine, and what's yours is negotiable".


2 posted on 07/10/2006 11:10:01 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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The plot of land, the site of a former slaughterhouse

Talk about irony...

3 posted on 07/10/2006 11:11:07 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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Just wait until you hear the caterwauling from those minarets at the crack of dawn.


4 posted on 07/10/2006 11:13:10 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: dennisw

Another small step on the path to becoming an Islamic nation.


5 posted on 07/10/2006 11:17:26 AM PDT by American Quilter (Equal laws protecting equal rights...the best guarantee of loyalty and love of country. -- Madison)
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To: 2banana

A pork slaughterhouse by chance?


6 posted on 07/10/2006 11:19:05 AM PDT by balk (Vive le Canada libre... des Libereaux)
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""We wanted to perform this act of justice towards our Muslim compatriots in Marseille, to allow them to hide a fox in the hen house"

"The plot of land, the site of a former slaughterhouse,"

Appropriate.
7 posted on 07/10/2006 11:19:24 AM PDT by garyhope ("In vino veritas" Especially a good red wine with a nice grilled steak and baked potato.)
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I could never live in a neighborhood dominated by minarets

They wouldn't let you. They'd hound you out of your house.

8 posted on 07/10/2006 11:20:09 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: dennisw

Franceistan!


9 posted on 07/10/2006 11:21:10 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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Either we get the right to build churches there, or they don't get mosques here.

Absolutely. And one of the tenets of Islam is that once they take a land, it's theirs in perpetuity. Wake up Pierre.

10 posted on 07/10/2006 11:21:26 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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Let them build a nice big one France, for one day all the laws that govern your lives will be issued from this building....assuming they don't want to build a bigger one in Paris when the time comes.


11 posted on 07/10/2006 11:22:47 AM PDT by Gator101
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Let them build a nice big one France, for one day all the laws that govern your lives will be issued from this building....assuming they don't want to build a bigger one in Paris when the time comes.

They won't have to build one in Paris - they'll just take over Notre Dame!

12 posted on 07/10/2006 11:27:45 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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Will this be the Charles Martel Memorial Mosque?


13 posted on 07/10/2006 11:32:58 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Rugged individualists of the world, unite!)
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...they'll just take over Notre Dame

That's true - a la Hagia Sophia.

14 posted on 07/10/2006 11:36:20 AM PDT by Gator101
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To: dennisw

What an ignorant Nation, they will never see it coming. Never.


15 posted on 07/10/2006 11:37:32 AM PDT by chicagopolish (Polka is not from Poland!! We had nothing to do with it. It was the Czechs!!!)
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To: nathanbedford

5 times a day as well.

I'm sure Saudi Arabia will allow a church to be built in their country any day now.


16 posted on 07/10/2006 11:37:45 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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With real loud bells.


17 posted on 07/10/2006 11:39:27 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: dennisw
no doubt the deadlock was "broken" because the French took a more prudent position at the bargaining table:

"notre posicion de dialogue est incondicionel et final: nous surrenderons incondicionelment"

18 posted on 07/10/2006 11:42:01 AM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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Under an agreement to be finalised on July 17, Marseille will make available an 8,000 square-metre (two acre) plot of land in the north of the city to the association in charge of the project, on a 99-year lease
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The money must come from private donations since the French government cannot finance places of worship under laws on the separation of church and state.


and exactly what are the terms of that lease???
19 posted on 07/10/2006 11:43:50 AM PDT by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: dennisw

They'll be sorry.


20 posted on 07/10/2006 11:54:28 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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