Posted on 07/08/2006 8:12:30 AM PDT by mathprof
Well-connected public figures report that they have been told recently by Rudolph Giuliani that, as of now, he intends to run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008.
The former mayor of New York was on top of last month's national Gallup poll measuring presidential preferences by registered Republicans, with 29 percent. Sen. John McCain's 24 percent was second, with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich third at 8 percent. National polls all year have shown Giuliani running either first or second to McCain, with the rest of the presidential possibilities far behind.
Republican insiders respond to these numbers by saying rank-and-file GOP voters will abandon Giuliani once they realize his position on abortion, gay rights and gun control. Party strategists calculate that if he actually runs, he must change on at least one of these issues.
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The founders also laid out a Principle that the Supreme Court interprets the Constitution.
Whether anyone likes it, legal abortion has been the law of the land since the early 70's.
So I guess since then, you, and those who think like you, see no reason for the existence of the United States.
In your opinion, it only takes that we have a President who wishs abortion would go away and sleeps with a gun under his bed, and hates gays, that all will be well. Only under that circumstance will it worth defending the United States?
Good recall. All the more reason to be wary.
Don't we have this same exact thread like every weekend or something?
If the War on Terror were the only thing going, Rudy wouldn't be a horrible choice, but he just isn't up to the task when you consider the courts, taxes, etc....
It just isn't going to happen.
look I like McCain personally, but to answer your question: Politics + Policy: I cannot, will not, go through or support another 8 years of Bushite-Rockefeller Republicanism. Our nation is in real danger, and only someone with the Ideology and Consistancy as well as faith Like RR (used gracefully by God, through the election-rep. by the American people) can and will save our nation where real issues and public policy is concerned..
You're a couple of centuries too early.
In the future, they might be able to take some Reagan DNA, some Giuliani, some Bush, (anyone want some Buchanan too) etc, mix then up in a test tube, and clone a candidate to run a couple of years later.
But in this day and age it is easy to disparage a successful performer like Giuliani in comparison to the perfect phantom.
who is RR?
Giuliani is a tax cutter.
Let me clairify; I like McCain as a person (even if I do not believe that He has some personal qualities that I dont like).., but I don't like, and can't stand his policies..
..Sarcasm right..you're joking: That's ok, but If you are (serious): RR =Ronald W Reagan!
to which I'll counter with gun control (the libs are going after the 2nd Amendment in the next 5 years without a doubt)...
Abortion (judges)
and what will go on with our current situation on our southern border?
like I said, WOT, Rudy is as good as gold. Anything else, I know the GOP can do better. MUCH better.
Excuse for not knowing right off the top of my head that RR was the proper synonym for Ronald Reagan.
I think you've really exposed yourself here as nothing more than a pragmatic, unprinicled political observer. If the U.S. Supreme Court decided tomorrow that Sabramerican no longer deserves any legal protection whatsoever, I am quite sure that you'd consider the U.S. Supreme Court and "the law of the land" completely irrelevant.
So I guess since then, you, and those who think like you, see no reason for the existence of the United States.
That's exactly what makes cases like Kelo v. New London and Roe v. Wade so damaging to this nation. In the last 40 years, the U.S. Supreme Court has done something that the Soviet Union and al-Qaeda could only dream of doing -- creating a civic/social order in this country that will eventually collapse under its own weight.
And lest you think things like "guns, gays, and God" are minor issues, just understand how closely these issues are related to many others that you might consider more important. For example, I actually look upon the whole ongoing illegal immigration debate with amusement -- because looking at it outside the context of a larger political/moral debate makes no sense at all. A nation that kills a million of its own children every year and then allows a million illegal immigrants to invade the country in the same year doesn't need "immigration reform" -- it needs a f#cking psychiatric examination from top to bottom.
Roe v. Wade had nothing to do with interpreting the Constitution. Even its defenders recognize that the SCOTUS made up the right to an abortion whole cloth, and stitiched it into the Constitution.
We've finally got a chance to reverse some of these abominable usurpations of power by liberal justices. We need at least two more socially conservative justices in the mold of Scalia and Alito to get the effort underway. The socially liberal Giuliani isn't likely to make that happen.
Giuliani is more likely to stick us with another Kennedy, Souter, or Breyer.
No thank you.
This isn't an odd coincidence, either. Most Americans recognize that for all intents and purposes, New York City isn't even really part of the United States anymore.
We agree Rudy is not an optimal nominee, but the above comment is, for lack of a better word, nonsense.
What a remarkabe argument.
Maybe you don't like the system of Government but it is what it is.
The Supreme Court interprets the Constitution. Sometimes badly.
And the Congress often pass bad law.
And the President something makes really stupid decisions.
But that, checks and balances and warts and all, is the Constitutionally formed Government of the United States.
I'm sorry it doesn't meet with your approval. You can stay in bed.
If you were to put together a list of all the issues that Americans consider very important these days, you'll find that in some capacity New York City has basically capitulated on these issues years ago.
You are supposedly from NY. You hate NY. You're not too fond of our system of government. And your candidate does not yet exist.
And Giulaini will not get your vote. Se'la'vie.
Remember, Rudy's on his third marriage, not second. Was his first marriage over when he started to date Donna Hanover? I don't know.
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