Good morning Miss Marple!
You have not caused any ill will, you are 100% spot on! It is sad, all of it.
I have learned to not become as emotionally involved as I once was, nor naive about an issue I strongly support thanks to folks like you, Peach,Ohiowfan, Snugs, and all the good folks who show us how to remain strong on issues they support but not to the point of being naive and being taken in by conmen who exploit good generous people.
I haven't read the entire thread just the last 2 pages but gloating over someone's mistake as some have appeared to be doing is not something I would condone.
Point being there are border security and open border advocates and the two groups are so far apart that it feels like they will never agree but it doesn't make one more right than the other nor should either be called names and that was the point I was trying to make.
People like Simcox who con people should be prosecuted.
The issues don't seem to matter to the border hysterics, stopem. I've seen point after point made proving some of the hysterics wrong, but they just jump to another topic or start calling anyone who doesn't believe some of the garbage thrown about "open border" supporters, etc.
Most of us would indeed like to see border security, but when suggestions are made by politicians that are common sense, it's not enough for the hysterics. Nothing is ever enough for them. They want to own the issue and have something to complain about instead.