KILLING NEW YORK SOFTLY ( High Taxes, Losing people, Killing Businesses...)

New York Post ^ | July 5, 2006 | Editorial

[george76]

While the latest performance of Albany lawmakers was breathtakingly destructive on its face, the damage is even worse when compared to fiscal policies in other states.

Rarely inclined to remember - or even to care - that the Empire State must compete economically with 49 other states, New York lawmakers have once again failed to improve the state's attractiveness for taxpaying individuals and businesses.

Little wonder why New York is losing more residents than any other state - and why businesses are fleeing, upstate especially.

Other states are only too happy to woo New Yorkers and New York businesses...

Albany added more than $7 billion in new spending - in percentage terms, the increase was the largest in decades.

[kittymyrib]

How can this be,when New Yawkers vote for Chuckie Cheesey Schumer and Hellery every chance they get? I thought that they would have fixed all the problems by now.

[george76]

Just wait until the new DUmmie governor takes over !

[VOA]

thanks for the graphics;
that virtual one-to-one out of high-tax states to low-tax states is interesting

[george76]

The graphics are interesting.

They came from Barrons.

[rod1]

Certainly true they are counted. But I would expect those numbers to be rather static across the past decade.

[5Madman2]

I left Rochester in 78-joined the AF. The decay was starting even then.

Went back in 87 to recruit for the AF. All it did was remind me of all the reasons I left.

I love the area, the outdoor activites, but the taxes and BS are too much for me to ever return permanently.

Industry just doesn't want to be there, and the population has sunk into a complete entitlement mentality.

Cuomo was the worst example of a scumbag liberal dem, but Rockefeller before him and Pataki after him have big hands in the present problems

I miss my family, and the area, but not enough to leave TX.

[DJ MacWoW]

I get up and get dressed everyday. The only difference is my office is in our woods. Right where I choose to be and when I choose to be there.

It's wonderful if you can do that. Unfortunately, not everyone can.

Don't want to or I would be.

An elevator tech? Hubby loves it. For him, it's better than a crossword puzzle. There was a job that hadn't run in 16 yrs. He had it running in a couple hours and was disappointed. He thought it would be a challenge.

[Nik Naym]

To those of us who really do live in upstate and western NY, anything from Westchester on down is NOT upstate.

Orange and Sullivan are suburbs of NYC as far as we are concerned.

NY is a BIG state, look up higher on the map...see all that stuff UP there? THAT is Upstate.

Check out housing prices in the counties west and north of say, Albany.

In my county the median house costs somewhere between $85,000 and $90,000. And no, I am NOT talking a slum...that will get you 3 or 4 bedrooms, a couple bathrooms, 1500 to 2,000 sq ft, a garage and a lot size of anywhere from 3/4 to to a couple of acres. And NOT in a crime ridden slum either...I am talking safe and clean.

In any other part of the US you are going to pay 150,000 and UP for similar housing.

(Of course, this IS New York State, so your property taxes on that 85,000 house are going to run you around 3 grand a year)

[Nik Naym]

"... Rochester. Cheap housing, cheap rent, wonderful people, good scenery, but no jobs, no money, high taxes, and stupid laws and regulations."

That is the most accurate description of this area you could have possibly written. Dead on accurate.

[dashing doofus]

Thanks. I am a naturalized American citizen. My parents came over to the US when I was three, without the proverbial pot to pee in. We all became citizens, worked hard, and achieved the American dream. I suppose this is a very old fashioned notion, and completely foreign (pun) to the likes of the elected-elite in NY, who want to invoke "victimhood" on many segments of society, in order to get their votes. They want as many dependents on the gubmint (unions, etc.) as possible.

[dashing doofus]

If you are ultra wealthy, NYC is a great place to live in. I made a very fine living there, but the commute, the taxes, the crowds, the crazy liberal elites everywhere in Manhattan, just kind of wore me down over the years.

Now we're happy in New Hampshire, much more in tune with my political beliefs, and with a far, far friendlier tax structure. I will never move back to New York, ever. The state will face continous pressure to raise taxes forever, because the politicians have made very poor financial decisions, sold out to the unions for votes, and politically cannot get spending under control.

Last one out, turn out the lights.

[GeorgefromGeorgia]

That's high property tax. I have a house in GA worth about 220K and my taxes are about $2500 per year.

[Conservative4Ever]

Every state has good and bad counties

Tell me about it. Our county area was a well kept secret. No more. More and more crime is encroaching to our area, as the population grows. I have been here 30 years and it is sad and disheartening to see.

[McGavin999]

I worked up in Canada for 4 years and when I came home, I came home through New York state. It was one of the most beautiful places I have ever seen and the people were the nices folks I have ever run into.

To this day I don't know if that perception was real or if it was colored by the fact that I had been away from my country for 4 years :o)

[Clemenza]

It aint the "illegals" that make NYC "what it is" but the Limo liberals. $1 Million buys you a "fixer upper" in a marginal Brooklyn neighborhood.

If NYC is such a sh-thole, why is it not losing population like upstate and has the most expensive real estate in the country?

[Clemenza]

And we "natives" don't hang out with the "tranplant hicks," although I'm sure she has told you that already. ;-)