Posted on 07/05/2006 7:03:35 AM PDT by ElRushbo
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Which must be why Rush found him good company.
Congratulations. You are the first on this thread to mention the little people he ruined. I heard someone defend him today as being "a conservative", and therefore unjustly criticized. I don't know why conservatism should be linked to that guy, I think he is much better described as being a criminal.
Good call.
I've been saying essentially the same thing to may people and on other threads. Not the best way to make friends, is it?
What truly amazes me is how quickly people here have abandoned the concept of personally responsibility for their own retirement. And we're supposed to be the conservative board!
The effort to make people dependant on others (government, employers) for their lives has been VERY successful, if it permeates even FR.
LOL! Did you see the one from the guy who thinks he's been sent to a space station????????
Oh well....I must get back to "Queen's Greatest Hits".
You and me both.
Sadly, there are some types of conservatives out there who would lock up a minority in prison for life just for stealing a loaf of bread, but they bend over backwards to make excuses for dirtbags like Lay.
That's not me. I don't think there's anything noble whatsoever about white collar criminals. In addition to the lives that they help ruin, they do terrible damage to faith in our capitalist system.
Drat.
There's goes a perfectly good hysterical conspiracy theory......:-\
Sorry, I normally aim to please!
And addendum to my post #448:
I've decided the local HouTX reporter who said Lay's home in Snowmass was one of five he had and the only one left that he didn't sell may not have had his facts straight, OR he knows something the public doesn't.
My records showed 4 properties all along and that they did finally sell the 4th one and it wasn't this one. Granted, some of them were "sold" to LLPs that he may have been a partner in - company names that don't tell who owns them. A lot of the Old Snowmass properties are owned in LLP names and it would take me forever to track them all down.
One or two of today's stories said they were leasing that house where they were staying, but I don't know if that's true or not. Perhaps someone with better resources will track it down. I'll just sit on the fence about this now. It didn't match any of my file pix from 2001-2002 of their homes and property, nor did the Snowmass address.
Sorry about that. MSM strikes again, perhaps. Same about the Pitkin autopsy, which I thought the reporter had wrong at the get-go and apparently, he did. No more mention of it after that, by anyone. I give up.
Ditto!
Some interesting legal citations in your post.
"An interesting question is whether one can still describe Lay as having been convicted of a crime, at least in a technical sense, because the law no longer recognizes there having been any criminal case initiated against him."
The court of public opinion will be quite clear on this for posterity IMO.
You're not exactly right.
Job Ch.11:6 And that he would shew thee the secrets of wisdom, that they are double to that which is! Know therefore that God exacteth of thee less than thine iniquity deserveth.
He is far more merciful than we can imagine.
<< Well, now my liberal brother-in-law won't be able to yark about "(President) Bush is gonna pardon .... " >>
Surely, tell you b-in-law, our President is going to pardon Mr Lay and every other of Missus and Billy-Bubba Cli'ton's beneficiaries.
(And then tell your poor Sis': "Brian sends his condolences -- and wishes you 'better luck next time!'"
Only morons put themselves in a position where Enron stock's collapse could wipe out their life savings.
Anyone whose life savings are wiped out by the collapse of a single stock is an irresponsible little crybaby.
Period.
Wrong.
I don't understand why people who know nothing about how 401ks work continue posting nonsense like this.
Of course they are - but they made themselves victims and that's the key distinction.
Anyone who handled their retirement finances like a responsible adult should could not have been significantly affected by Enron's collapse unless they wanted to be.
Most of that money is gone to pay for high-priced attorneys' fees.
The civil trials would have been a paper victory for the plaintiffs anyway - nothing split 12,000 ways is still nothing.
God pardoned him. He must have been innocent.
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