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Ken Lay has died (heart attack)
Reuters | 7/5/06

Posted on 07/05/2006 7:03:35 AM PDT by ElRushbo

cause of death unknown


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: arkancide; assasination; criminal; crook; cultureofcorruption; damncrook; enron; enronlist; heartattack; howconvenient; immoralbastard; karma; kenlay; kennethlay; kennyboy; obituary; quietforevermore; rovianplot; thedamned; theultimatepardon; thief; wasgoingtosqueal
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To: KevinB
He conducted his fraud to enrich himself at the cost of the financial futures of thousands of people.

No he didn't.

Anyone who put their life savings in Enron stock instead of diversifying his portfolio is a moron who can only blame himself for his own stupidity.

Note to slow-on-the-uptake investors: the stock market is risky.

Lay himself was one of the largest individuals holders of Enron stock and he clearly wasn't trying to destroy the value of stock he owned.

He was greedy and he lied to his stockholders.

He deserved to go to prison and to forfeit the money he took.

But discussing him as if he were a murderer or a rapist when he was just a thief and a pretty lousy one at that is ridiculous hyperbole inspired more by the media spin on Lay than the actual facts of the case.

141 posted on 07/05/2006 7:43:25 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: ElRushbo

The Great Equalizer steps in once again. Rest in peace.


142 posted on 07/05/2006 7:43:35 AM PDT by nitejohnboy
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
The strange and convenient death of J. Clifford Baxter—Enron executive found shot to death

The way the Clinton SEC under Robert Rubin set up the Enron debacle has been totally under-reported. Had Lay started to sing it would have been extremely embarrasing to the left. The way the California power crisis was set up has never been adequately covered.

143 posted on 07/05/2006 7:43:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: ElRushbo

Why does "You can't take it with you" come to my mind?


144 posted on 07/05/2006 7:43:59 AM PDT by no dems (www.4condi.com)
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To: JFC

I find DU a sick group of anti-americans who hate Bush more than they hate rattlesnakes, maybe they are rattlesnakes!!!


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145 posted on 07/05/2006 7:44:20 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Remember, the Liberals Hate Us More than They Hate Bush.)
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To: hflynn

"He shot himself with a heart attack."

Wasn't that a Bon Jovi song? Shot through the heart...


146 posted on 07/05/2006 7:44:31 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: ElRushbo

I want to see his body maybe he flew


147 posted on 07/05/2006 7:44:32 AM PDT by al baby (Dick Trickle is not a medical condition)
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To: 2dogjoe
Many people don't realize that the beginning of the end came as a result of his trusting in slick willie. Somehow slick willie worked a deal for Enron in India. After Enron spent billions....India decided they didn't want to participate and left Enron with billions of expenses and no hope of recovering those expenses.

A few trips that slick willie made to India were for the purpose of trying to convince India to get back into the deal.

148 posted on 07/05/2006 7:44:40 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: romanesq
Ken Lay did not destroy many lives - he destroyed one life: his own.

Anyone who claims that Ken Lay destroyed his life is a loser with zero sense of personal responsibility.

149 posted on 07/05/2006 7:44:45 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Jaded
They have overloaded their server with their own stupidiousness

A new word to describe DU types? I like it:)

150 posted on 07/05/2006 7:44:47 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (What is it about "illegal" you don't understand?)
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To: CFC__VRWC

Remind your brother-in-law that it was Bill Clinton who gave all the perks to Ken Lay - not Bush. And .. when the story broke, it was Lieberman who said he was going to start hearings and take Bush down. However, as soon as the hearings started, Lieberman discovered all roads led back to Clinton and the hearings were quickly dropped - never to be heard of again.


151 posted on 07/05/2006 7:44:59 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: ElRushbo

Ken Lay. May he RIP. Amen.


152 posted on 07/05/2006 7:45:27 AM PDT by tioga
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To: ElRushbo

Was Claudine Longet in the neighborhood?????


153 posted on 07/05/2006 7:45:31 AM PDT by joey'smom
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To: brownsfan; SoFloFreeper

Agree as well, but they also shouldn't be multi-millionaires on his ill-gotten gains.


154 posted on 07/05/2006 7:45:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: ElRushbo

Well, he was the captain of the ship ... but the XO (Skilling) probably more at fault about Enron's sinking!


155 posted on 07/05/2006 7:45:36 AM PDT by meandog (If I were to draw the odious Islamic prophet Muhammad, he would have horns, a tail, and a pitchfork!)
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To: Tigercap

I know it and you know it but it wont stop the DUmmies from wild speculation and flat out BS.

I cant even access their board now because its apparently so busy


156 posted on 07/05/2006 7:45:43 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mtbopfuyn

"He won't be enjoying his annunities now."

What do nuns have to do with this?


157 posted on 07/05/2006 7:46:04 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: wideawake

Agree that you shouldn't put all your money into your company's stock, but the employees were hung out to dry when Lay and his cohorts were dumping their stock at the end, but the employees were not allowed to sell theirs.


158 posted on 07/05/2006 7:46:04 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: romanesq
"Find the stash and seize it all. Let RICO find it."

It's going to be very difficult for the government to take assets that are so well protected by the law. This will be an interesting case.

159 posted on 07/05/2006 7:46:06 AM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: wideawake

"There are rapists and child molesters walking around free in this country - people need to get some sense of moral proportion."

A rapist or child molester destroys one or a handful of lives, which is terrible.

A guy who calmly defrauds his company, employees, and stockholders of billions destroys thousands.

As with a molestation or rape, the victim lives; but their lives are thrown into chaos, their futures ruined.

Now some outside guy, like me (although I had no stake in Enron) who bought some shares might have had a chance to bail out. The employees, though, were locked out of any chance to escape by transferring their 401k assets.

Those people were ****ed by Ken Lay. I don't want to in any way trivialize the horror of rape or molestation victims but IMO the "only fraud" treatment of white collar crime is 100% off target; the white-collar criminal just savages his victims from afar.


160 posted on 07/05/2006 7:46:24 AM PDT by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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