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Airbus begins installation of A380 wing reinforcements
flightglobal.com ^ | July 4, 2006 | Max Kingsley-Jones

Posted on 07/03/2006 10:00:54 AM PDT by smonk

Airbus begins installation of A380 wing reinforcements By Max Kingsley-Jones in Filton

Airbus has begun to install a strengthening package on to the wing of a completed A380 as an interim solution after the static-test specimen suffered a premature rupture during its ultimate load test. Meanwhile, Airbus UK is working on a long-term redesign of components.

“We have devised a small modification package while we go through the analysis to understand [the rupture] in detail and devise a long-term solution, to present that to the European Aviation Safety Agency [EASA],” says Airbus UK head of A380 wing engineering Phil Hamblin. “The interim package is being put into the aircraft on the production line at the moment. Longer term, rather than add on reinforcings, we’ll embody the modifications into the machining of the baseline components at source.”

Airbus UK senior vice-president Brian Fleet says the interim modifications have been incorporated into the wing of MSN003, which is the first A380 for Singapore Airlines and currently in Hamburg for cabin installation.

“The remainder of the wings that have already been delivered will be modified in the next few months,” says Fleet. “Wings delivered from MSN018 onwards will have the modifications incorporated before delivery to the final assembly line.”

Hamblin says that, although the interim modifications have not been approved by EASA, the agency “has been taken through our findings and our analysis of the test, and has approved our approach”. He adds that approval “will be covered in the documentation presented for A380 certification” later this year.

Fleet says discussions are already under way with suppliers about modifying the base designs.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: a380; airbus; boeing; eads
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this is getting scary . . . .
1 posted on 07/03/2006 10:00:56 AM PDT by smonk
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To: smonk

Think twice-buy Boeing!


2 posted on 07/03/2006 10:01:59 AM PDT by Quark606
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To: smonk

"Trust me,folks,there's no chance that the wings will fall off of this baby.Well.almost no chance."


3 posted on 07/03/2006 10:03:03 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: smonk

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4 posted on 07/03/2006 10:03:04 AM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: TommyDale

LOL!!


5 posted on 07/03/2006 10:05:11 AM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|The IRA are actually terrorists, any questions?)
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To: smonk
I have no way of really knowing anything for certain except for what I have been reading. This project appears to be getting worse. I think it is turning out to be an engineering quagmire, doomed ultimately to end without success, after it burns everyone out.

It sort of reminds of me of some programming projects I was involved with in another life.

6 posted on 07/03/2006 10:08:01 AM PDT by Banjoguy (I refuse to 'Google' anything at anytime.)
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To: smonk
Airbus has begun to install a strengthening package on to the wing of a completed A380 as an interim solution

A little more significant than some shifting wiring bundles.

Before this thread goes off the deep end, anybody know of any other instances like this with other commercial airliners?

7 posted on 07/03/2006 10:09:29 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: TommyDale
Nooooooo!
The horror! I use that stuff all the time.
8 posted on 07/03/2006 10:09:45 AM PDT by Mike-o-Matic
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To: smonk
Add some more weight Frogs. Get the museum ready for the ones that are already built.
9 posted on 07/03/2006 10:09:59 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Banjoguy

this can't be helping the A380 with it's widely whispered weight problem.


10 posted on 07/03/2006 10:10:44 AM PDT by smonk
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To: smonk

Sounds like the French aren't any better at building airplanes than they are at building nuclear-powered warships. Sounds like socialist France is having the same problems with it's cradle-to-grave 'workforce' that the USSR had. Why perform well at work when there is neither reward nor punishment?


11 posted on 07/03/2006 10:12:03 AM PDT by Ostlandr ( CONUS SITREP is foxtrot uniform bravo alfa romeo)
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To: smonk

By the time they get one of these abortions flying they will have to market low cost airfare to those contemplating suicide.


12 posted on 07/03/2006 10:15:44 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: USNBandit

Yes- the first one, the De Haviland Comet:

http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Aerospace/DeHavilland/Aero49.htm


13 posted on 07/03/2006 10:15:54 AM PDT by Ostlandr ( CONUS SITREP is foxtrot uniform bravo alfa romeo)
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To: Banjoguy

Then this is the engineering equivelant for the term "kluge" - also European in origin.


14 posted on 07/03/2006 10:15:54 AM PDT by incredulous joe ("Somewhere in Massachusetts, a village is missing BOTH its idiots.")
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To: Ostlandr

Yeah, that's a good example of not fixing a problem before it starts.


15 posted on 07/03/2006 10:18:50 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: smonk

If its not Boeing I'm not going.............


16 posted on 07/03/2006 10:20:10 AM PDT by lmailbvmbipfwedu
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To: dalereed

"By the time they get one of these abortions flying they will have to market low cost airfare to those contemplating suicide."

It has flown, though without a passenger load. Just the flight crew.

It's a monstrosity.


17 posted on 07/03/2006 10:20:25 AM PDT by RoadTest (“Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil” –Thomas Mann)
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To: smonk
A new engineer has been assigned to the project


18 posted on 07/03/2006 10:24:26 AM PDT by llevrok (The United States of America. , est. 1776)
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To: USNBandit
Not on commercial, but on military, yes. The reason for for this is because there have been very few to none absolutely all new wings developed in the last few years.

The exception to this, and the one I eye witnessed, was the C-17 wing failing in much the same way as the A380. Not only was the load about similar, but so was the location (between the engine mounts) and also the fix (repaired in-place, long term fix incorporated in future builds). The military was very happy with the fix as it met all of the criteria of the original design except for the added weight.

The machine spars for these massive wings are incredibly complex to fab (and expensive) - incremental minor changes are usually the way to go when incorporating changes as opposed to radical, major design changes. Rest assured that this "fix" has been scrutinized pretty closely by the design authorities.

Having said all that (as if I was defending them), Airbus has always been a rival in my aerospace work and I will do my best to avoid flying airlines that fly their products.
19 posted on 07/03/2006 10:29:23 AM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: USNBandit

Hey, in 1949 we couldn't do nondestructive testing, or do computer simulation of fatigue effects. The disasters of the Comet helped later aircraft designers develop semi-indestructible aircraft like the B-52.
And we have had our own problems, like the C-141. Of course, that occurs past 45,000 hours flying time. Not with brand-new aircraft.

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20 posted on 07/03/2006 10:29:38 AM PDT by Ostlandr ( CONUS SITREP is foxtrot uniform bravo alfa romeo)
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