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Only 483 Guard Working on Mexican Border
Breitbart & AP ^ | Jun 30 2006 | By AARON C. DAVIS

Posted on 06/30/2006 7:15:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance

Only 483 Guard Working on Mexican Border
Jun 30 9:35 PM US/Eastern

By AARON C. DAVIS

Associated Press Writer

SACRAMENTO, Calif.

On the deadline to have 2,500 troops along the Mexican border, the National Guard said Friday that only 483 were in position and working with the U.S. Border Patrol as the Bush administration had directed.

But Guard officials said more than 2,000 others were somewhere inside the four southwestern border states, training or helping plan the deployment. He and Bush administration officials argued Friday that the presence of troops in those states spelled success in the first stage of the mission.

Lt. Gen. H. Steven Blum, chief of the National Guard Bureau, an arm of the Pentagon, had promised June 1 that by the end of the month 2,500 Guard troops would be working "on the border."

"As defined by the operation, the National Guard has met and exceeded its goal of deploying 2,500 soldiers and airmen to the four Southwest border states," said White House spokesman Blain Rethmeier. "Progress to date is real and the Guard's efforts are making a positive difference in this national effort."

As evidence, he said the early arrival of troops had allowed the Border Patrol to send 125 agents "back to the front lines," and helped the Border Patrol catch nearly 200 illegal immigrants, seize 123 pounds of marijuana, 18 pounds of cocaine and seven vehicles.

Through initial pay requests filed with the Air Guard and orders filed with the Army Guard, the Guard bureau verified 2,547 troops were in the four border states for the mission, said Daniel Donohue, a spokesman for the National Guard Bureau.

Only 483 were physically on the border, he conceded.

The remaining forces _ 1,816 _ are in training somewhere in the four states; 248 are assigned to headquarters and planning roles, Donohue said.

Asked to clarify, Blum spokesman Mark Allen responded by e-mail that the general had never specifically promised to deliver troops to a "geographically defined latitude and longitude."

Still, there were signs the deployment was picking up speed.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry said 1,000 Army and Air National Guardsmen were either on the border or "on their way," adding 500 to totals released Thursday. But his office said the additional troops didn't actually reach the border, but were considered deployed when they left Friday for two weeks of training.

Several states whose Guard leaders and governors had been contacted by the National Guard Bureau in the last 48 hours also made announcements Friday that they would send troops.

Gov. Mike Easley of North Carolina said he would reluctantly deploy 300 troops to the border in mid-July.

"I would prefer not to have any of the North Carolina National Guard deployed to other states at this time," he said. "However, the Guard units in the western states are spread thin as they battle raging wildfires. We must all step up and do our part to keep our country safe."

Kentucky announced it would send up to 650 National Guard troops. Arkansas also said it would send 200. New Jersey also said it would send up to 650 for three-week assignments.

Damon Foreman, senior patrol agent and spokesman for the Border Patrol in San Diego, said agents there eagerly await the Guard's help.

"We would welcome all the help we could get. We could absorb them as fast as we could give them instructions on what to do," Foreman said, adding that the delayed deployment, however, had not affected operations.

"We've been doing a considerably effective job for a long time now, we'll keep doing our job whether the whole number of Guard show up tomorrow, a week from tomorrow, or a month from now."

Bush's plan for stemming illegal immigration by using National Guardsmen in a support role called for 2,500 troops to be on the border by June 30, and 6,000 by the end of July.

Bush had said the mission would free up thousands of officers now on other duties to actively patrol the border. Guardsmen are expected to build fences, conduct routine surveillance and take care of other administrative duties for the border patrol.


Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderpatrol; borders; culture; illegalaliens; illegals; immigration; language; mexicans; mexico; nationalguard; wetbacks
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To: EternalVigilance

""Try to focus, sinkspur. The subject is the border and immigration.

George W. Bush is the one man who could solve this problem forthwith, using his constitutional powers and the resources already budgeted to our military.

The only thing lacking, still, beyond the words, is the will.

If you will notice, that is what the facts presented by this article show, again.""

You could argue this 50 ways from Sunday. It will make no difference : )


121 posted on 06/30/2006 9:25:38 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (If you got Sowell, you got Soul !)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Do people pay you for your obtuseness and snide ignorant remarks?

I do this for free, and for fun.

And, man-o-man, am I having fun pokin' you with a stick.

122 posted on 06/30/2006 9:28:22 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Ok I have tried to google for US Department of Justice crime stats to no avail. I have seen a lot of anectotal references to such as this

Eighty percent of all arrests occurred in three states--California, Texas, and Arizona. Specifically, about 58 percent of all arrests occurred in California, 14 percent in Texas, and 8 percent in Arizona.

But given that that was for ALL types of arrests it is not credible that 19000 murders were charged in those 4 states since Texas averages about 1200 murders per year. California averages about 2500 murders per year. Illegals would have to be responsible for at least half of those yearly murder rates to reach 19,000 and since only about 14 % of illegals are charged with violent crimes it just doesn't appear to be possible.

123 posted on 06/30/2006 9:35:19 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
so is the fact that 95% of all oustanding murder warrants in Los angeles County are for illegal immigrants.

The vast majority of which are well over 10 years old.

That's a misleading statistic.

124 posted on 06/30/2006 9:37:30 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur

""The vast majority of which are well over 10 years old. ""

Uh, sorry, you are DEAD WRONG. Try again.


125 posted on 06/30/2006 9:38:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (If you got Sowell, you got Soul !)
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To: sinkspur
These numbers are impossible to reconcile. If these numbers were even remotly true the Texas execution table would be in use 24/7.
126 posted on 06/30/2006 9:39:06 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: sinkspur

You couldn't shine my shoes, peasant.


127 posted on 06/30/2006 9:39:48 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (If you got Sowell, you got Soul !)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

he numbers just don't add up. It is not possible if you can show me on an official site the breakdown King is claiming I will leave FR for good.


128 posted on 06/30/2006 9:40:18 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

Call them and you can get the correct linkage.


129 posted on 06/30/2006 9:40:50 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (If you got Sowell, you got Soul !)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I have been to their site. There is no linkage.


130 posted on 06/30/2006 9:41:28 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: sinkspur
"so is the fact that 95% of all outstanding murder warrants in Los Angeles County are for illegal immigrants. The vast majority of which are well over 10 years old. "
"That's a misleading statistic."

California has no statue of limitations for for the crime of Murder. These warrants are as valid as they day they were issued.
Nice try though.
131 posted on 06/30/2006 9:41:42 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Texasforever

I don't want you to leave FR. On most things we agree : )

I will endeavor to find the info, and FReepmail you.


132 posted on 06/30/2006 9:42:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (If you got Sowell, you got Soul !)
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To: investigateworld

You are correct, but the outstanding warrants do not have ivy growing up them, like another poster here inferred.


133 posted on 06/30/2006 9:44:36 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (If you got Sowell, you got Soul !)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

This is the FBI website and it just blows kings numbers out of the water

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/violent_crime/murder.html


134 posted on 06/30/2006 9:49:23 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

I will check on this. If indeed you are correct, I will apologize for being an idiot : )


135 posted on 06/30/2006 9:51:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (If you got Sowell, you got Soul !)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I am not calling anyone an idiot I am just questioning Kings numbers because no matter how you cut it, Illegals cannot account for the number of murders he is claiming.


136 posted on 06/30/2006 9:55:02 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Just keep in mind that 80% of all arrests of illegals are in Claifornia and Texas. For his numbers to hold up over 4 years illegal aliens would have to be committing 4,500,000 murders per year. I can tell you for a fact that that is an absurd number.
137 posted on 06/30/2006 10:02:25 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

OOPS I have been sating 19 million as his claim . Now I'm the idiot.


138 posted on 06/30/2006 10:06:03 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

ROTF!!

Too many stats in this world : )


139 posted on 06/30/2006 10:19:57 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (If you got Sowell, you got Soul !)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yeah and I call myself an engineer. Go figure. However I stand by my non idiot points. LOL


140 posted on 06/30/2006 10:20:54 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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