[FairOpinion]

Good for Weldon.

A lot of WMD and dual use materials, which could be used for WMD have already been found and there is more to be found.

We never found out what was in those trucks Saddam sent to Saddam.

[Peach]

You mean the trucks Saddam sent to Syria.

[MaineVoter2002]

Saddam's connection with Al Qaeda trumps the WMD justification.


http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html

[GW and Twins Pawpaw]

Rumor has it that we found a LOT of chemical protective suits over there and they weren't ours. Why would they need tens of thousands of chemical protective suits for the manufacture of pesticides?

[MOTR Newbie]

I still feel the war is justified, in part because i think there were WMD that were moved or hidden and in part because I think there were plenty of valid reasons to do this having nothing to do with WMD. In fact, I think it would have been dereliction of duty by Bush not to do it.

However, all this pointing at these old degraded munitions as justification for the war makes Republicans look a bit silly. Though they may technically qualify as WMD, this was not the type of WMD on which the case for the war was made, and we would not have invaded if our real reason was simply these lame shells. These munitions were not a bona fide material threat to US. All this excitement over a few old shells just looks like desparation and detracts from the genuine reasons for the war.

[piytar]

I know a moonbat whose response to this is, "Well, the UN knew about those from the first Gulf War." He conviniently ignores that Saddam had declared that he'd destroyed them after that war.

Moonbats really do disgust me anymore.

[mewzilla]

No offense to Weldon, but we've been at war with Iraq from the first time Iraq violated the CEASE FIRE they signed in '91.

[M1Tanker]

This was echoed in a book called "Weapons of Mass Destruction Found" by MAJ Bryan Russell, USAF. I met MAJ Russell and talked at length with him in Battle Creek, Mi during his book signing tour and have shared his book with other soldiers in my unit.

What other officers and soldiers have added to this list reported by MAJ Russell is VERY different from what the MSM and the left pound out daily.

The truth is, I believe we found enough WMDs and banned "dual use" items to contaminate large portions of the US water supply and cities. Add to this the radioactive material found, along with NEW processing tools, and groups could conceivably have contaminated large swaths of land including farms, food processing factories, city streets (imagine someone sprinkling radioactive material in Central Park or in the National Mall in D.C.), malls, or any other high traffic area.

In addition, US troops have been attacked twice with chemical agents in IED form. So not only did Saddam have WMDS, he made provisions to give them to terrorists (Baathis or non-Iraqi terrorists like the now brimstone eating Zarquawi)

Also, remember the failed VX/Sarin gas attack on Amman, Jordan in 2004? If not, don't worry, most of the media never mentioned it. 17+ Tons of Plastic Explosives, VX and Sarin agents (along with several other chemicals) were intercepted crossing the Syrian boarder in Jordan. Sarin is a binary agent. As long as the two components are kept sealed, it will not "deteriorate" as some on the left state. Also, it is not hard to make, as the Tokyo Dooms-Day Cult showed us a decade ago. VX, on the other hand is volatile and doesn't store well in 130deg heat (an average Iraqi summer day). Saddam's Iraq is the only Middle Eastern nation to ever import (from the USSR) or produce VX nerve gas.

The bottom line is, like the Oil for Food fiasco and the fact Saddam's Army was fully re-equiped with tanks during the "Arms embargo" of the 1990s, the WMDs open a Pandora's Box of possibilities on who was dealing with Saddam during the 90s. How dirty are the hands of the French gov't, or the Germans, Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, members of the British Parliament (MP Galloway), US Citizens (Mark Rich), and several dozen other groups????

[Tribune7]

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[GOP_1900AD]

How much of the actual chemical compound used in these munitons was shared with other countries and with terrorist groups? This is serious sh#$!

[R.W.Ratikal]

The Democrat response to the recent report of the finding of WMD in Iraq is that it never happened.

Democrats have based their entire opposition on the claim that President Bush knowingly lied when he took the nation to war because of WMD in Iraq. The party's culture of hate is also based on Bush's "Big Lie."

In an election year the Democrats cannot now admit that they were wrong so they are taking the position that no WMD have been found.

Hitler did not say, "Tell a lie enough times and it will be believed." He said, "Tell a BIG enough lie enough times and it will be believed."

[Puppage]

Weldon: WMD discovery justifies invasion

Like Saddam breaking 18 resolutions wasn't?

[pickrell]

It is an old post from November of 2004, but it is more relevant now than ever, and perhaps worth a quick read. The Missing Weapons..

[RandallFlagg]

Reference point: Saddam's WMDs
Thanks, FO.

[jonrick46]

Let's be perfectly clear about this issue. The evidence that has been found to clearly show that Iraq possessed WMDs is Top Secret. The Democrats know that if the Bush Administration revealed that evidence, they would be breaching national security. Impeachment time for the President if he let such evidence be revealed.

Because the Democrats know that the Bush Administration is in a Catch-22 about the WMD evidence, they continue to say that "BUSH LIED, PEOPLE DIED." The Left's accomplices in the press will not connect the dots. In fact, any evidence that supports the truth is ignored.

As a side note, this same game is being played with the prisoners in Guantanamo, Cuba. If we were to try them using the United States court system, the evidence necessary to convict these prisoners would reveal TOP SECRET information. Again the Democrats would charge the Bush Administration for the breach of national security.

At the same time, the New York times will breach national security anytime they can embarrass the Bush Administration and cause our efforts against the Islamo-fascists to fail.

What's wrong with this picture? Beam me up Scotty, the Left's got this brave nation in self destruct mode.

[P-40]

Where the heck is his report on what Sandy Berger took? He told Savage it would be out soon.

[do the dhue]

degraded chemical munitions

I hate the way this is worded. It makes it sound like the munitions may be harmless. The fact is, it is not as deadly further away from detonation as it once was; but the fact also remains that the munitions could still kick up a killer cloud.

I think the Military used these words when they released the info to the press. The press is running with it. Trying to make it sound like no big deal. The only thing I can think of is this:

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040624-112920-5897r.htm

Do they want to down play the deadliness so terrorist lose a little interest? I don't know. Or is it because the Media is communist and they hate the good ol' U.S. of A? I probably would pick 'the media is communist'. That is almost obvious.

[silveroyster]

From Media Research Center http://www.mrc.org/contactMRC/contactMRCwelcome.asp alert@mrcaction.org

I need you to see how MSNBC's Keith Olbermann mocked and
ridiculed you and Brent Bozell on his show Countdown
last night.

Click here to see the outrageous clip:


http://newsbusters.org/node/6168

Ronald, just this past Tuesday, we urged members of
our team to email key media outlets--including MSNBC,
urging them to report the truth about the Weapons of
Mass Destruction found in Iraq.

From the clip Olbermann mocks the MRC Action Team saying,
we sent him "literally dozens of impotent emails that
make everybody here laugh."

Truth is, Olbermann received 8,109 emails--not the dozens
he reported. Could it be that Olbermann's inability to
report the truth--even in this instance is the reason
why his show Countdown is all but down for the count?

++Email Keith Olbermann

In the wake of Olbermann's actions, I'm urging every member
of our team to email him once again and let him know what
you think about his dismissing of WMD, and referring to
those of us who want the truth as "sheep."

Here's his email address:

Countdown@msnbc.com

And after emailing Olbermann, I'd like you to call his
boss Steve Capus and let him know what you think about
Olbermann's arrogant and disrespectful attitude toward
viewers.

Here's his direct phone number: 212-664-3228

If you cannot get through, call MSNBC's main office:

201-583-5000
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Email Ltr to Keith Olbermann, MSNBC

Olbermann,

In regard to your reported response to MRC - Media Research Center - and our emails, including one from me, regarding minimalization - belittling, pooh-poohing - of stories about WMDs in Iraq and other truths about the war Islamists have declared on the world, esp. the US, and been pursuing at least since the 1970s, I am about to give you a wake-up call of further useful information for those wise enough to use it.

First, only to the matter of WMDs in Iraq, Saddam had, was pursuing further and was lying about his possession of and intents for the use of WMDs. As has been said, just ask the Kurds or the thousands of Shiites - Shi'a - that he killed with chemical weapons - WMDs in Iraq. I have not heard said but urge you and other doubting naysayers, humorists to ask also the Iranians in that most horrible of wars, perhaps also the Kuwaitis, and the coalition forces of the Gulf War as well as the present battles in Iraq since March 2003, and the Israelis and Saudis attacked by SCUDs in the Gulf War. Fortunately Saddam was not foolish enough to use WMDs, chems, bios or anything other than conventional weapons in the Gulf War. He did though do all the other things I have listed, including attacking Israel who had cautiously stayed out of the war as an overt participant.

Get it, Olbermann! Arabs do not recognize Israel and want it wiped off the map, all Jews killed, which Hitler failed to do in the WWII Holocaust and quite a few before him. Many Arab spokespersons have said many of these things time after time orally or in much more violent ways.

Perhaps you and your staff, even your bosses have not been listening or hearing anyway. Perhaps you were taking a nap, out having a drink, enjoying some other of your jokes on 9/11/2001. Lots of us weren't doing those things that day, did not before and have not since on these matters.

I encourage you also to look into the train "wreck" in North Korea near the Chinese border a few years ago as reported in more reliable public news media than yours.

See if you can find out if there were Syrians on the train and NK missiles. Ask also if the missiles were to be used maybe by the Syrians to match up with WMDs they had received from Iraq prior to, leading right up to if not beyond March 2003. See if you can couple that with another public news media report about WMDs found by Syrian "security forces" in Syria at about that same time.

Also check into Migs found buried in the sand in Iraq by coalition forces, after we had believed they were destroyed on the ground, in their bunkers and in the air during the Gulf War.

Although there is more, like testimony of Iraqi officials - pooh-poohed, murder of them as messengers by ad hominem attacks on them - and reports from coalition forces during their drive to Baghdad, elsewhere in Iraq in March 2003.

In other words, connect the dots, laughing boy and your giggling staff. You have a responsibility to yourself, the US and world publics to do these things as a "journalist." Not to do so is an abrogation of your duties and responsibilities that go along inseparable from freedom of the press.

We might also deal with the truths of Saddam-Taliban/al-Qaeda/other terrorist connections and harboring long before and leading up to and since March 2003. Among these evidences as examples are terrorists connected with terror attacks in the 1970s/80s/90s and since the turn of the century.

Among them, I believe you might find, are terrorists involved in the Achille Lauro hijacking and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

The latter went to Iraq at least as early as 2002 and at Saddam's invitation to organize, lead Muslim, principally Sunni, terrorists in Iraq. Take a look also at some of the background and history of that worthy Jordanian citizen and his activities since near childhood in his homeland where he was under two death warrants even before the hotel bombings in Amman recently.

Dots - dots - dots, Olbermann connect them, then tell me and the US public, the world your honest, truthful findings. That is your duty, responsibility and obligation as a journalist. If you fulfill those you might do a lot to preserve not only freedom of the press but also the MSNBC bottomline and possibly even restore some credibility in US media.

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I now depart from those central challenges to you, give you some background information and present further challenges to you and yours, all US media reporters.

From my own study of Islam and by now meeting with and talking intently since 2004 with many Muslims, and despite their many sects and the popularity of Islam around the world, I do not believe much if anything at all of what you and other US media report about the war the Muslims have declared on the world, esp. the US, and have been pursuing since at least the 1970s.

Curriculum Vitae (CV)/Resume. I am working primarily here from memory since I have little time to waste with you and those like you on these matters. My memory is based at least, hitting only the highlights, on three score and five years on the planet; a public schools education pre-Dr. Benjamin Spock and the invasion by liberals of US schools and other institutions - family, church, courts, government, etc. - of the society - any society; 35+ years in a uniform of the US Armed Forces; an undergraduate degree in journalism (U. TN - '63), and two graduate degrees in broad and diverse areas of study, teaching in the subject areas at hand in college, adult education programs, high school and other settings; a lifetime so far of worldwide travel past and ongoing, including most recently to the Middle East - Israel 4x in the past two years with side trips to Egypt and Jordan.

In the Middle East I meet, talk, socialize with Jews, Palestinians, Arab Muslims, Christians, people of no discernible faith or of other faith groups regularly. I mention the faith belief systems in part because many characterize this present war as a holy war - a clash of religions and cultures. I have heard the stories of all these people groups first hand and told them my story, our story as US citizens to the best of my limited abilities.

I believe Islam is generally a violent "religion" - cult, really - that in the Qur'an which I have read by now at least five times in its entirety and looked up for myself and others selected passages untold number of times all Muslims are taught: the principles of infidels; supremacy of Islam, Allah and Mohammed over all other belief systems, God and Jesus; and jihad.

One meaning of jihad from Arabic and the Qur'an is holy war, actual fighting to take over the world for Islam/Allah, impose Islamic Shar'ia law worldwide, kill all infidels - anyone not born Muslim or those who have left Islamic beliefs and practices - and exile any surviving infidels and some others to some place unnamed. I believe you and I, Olbermann, perhaps some of your staff and bosses are included among the infidels. So this is not a Democrat/Republican, liberal/conservative, God/Godless or rightwing religious nutcase issue. We are all as infidels targets of the Islamists.

The teachings of the principles mentioned above are confirmed in the hadeeths of Mohammed - his writings on his life as an example of how to live as a Muslim, and literally tons of writings by Islamic "holy men" past and present interpreting the Qur'an, the hadeeths, writings of other Muslims and their - "the holy men's" own writings.

Mohammed, by the way, as admitted to readily by Muslims, was illiterate and lots of other things, some not admitted to so readily by Muslims.

So any writings attributed to Mohammed were actually passed orally by him to others, including the Qur'an which Mohammed claims he received orally also, usually while at a desert wilderness cave from the Old Testament Angel Gabriel - Gibril - Arabic speakers call Gabriel.

Within the many, many sects of Islam there are great to small differences in interpretations of the Qur'an and the other writings. This is similar to the differences in the many different denominations of Christianity. Likewise in the many sects of Judaism, wrapping up all three of the major monotheistic belief systems presently known to be held by humankind.

At the bottomline, however, when pressed to the wall, all Muslims believe essentially the same about the teachings, writings of Islam. Again, like the bedrock beliefs of all Christian and Jewish believers, or even agnostics, atheists, Satanists, Wiccans and others.

In other words, a Muslim is a Muslim regardless of sect. Further, the Qur'an and the other writings teach that they are to seduce - fool by any means - infidels until they can take control of the infidels.

We are in a war, a hell of a war, probably WWIV, if we count the "Cold War" as WWIII. This war has been declared on the world, esp. the US, by Muslims, and their leaders have made their intents clear. They have been pursuing the war since at least the 1970s* - time of at least their third "great" resurgence in history since the founding of Islam by Mohammed; the other two resurgences of Islam being related to about the time of the Crusades - before, during and after for a few years - decades or hundreds of years, and now the present one. - * e.g., 5 Sep '72, Olympic Village, Munich, Germany; 4 Nov 79, US Embassy, Tehran, Iran - - 1981-2001 - 7,581 terrorist attacks worldwide; an attack against any free people - infidels - is an attack against all of us

Speaking of history, all one need do is read, study a bit of history to know many things about the Muslims and the current political situation in the US and the world. To put the truth on, for example, the many varieties of lies about the battles in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere, including right here in the US as Bush's war.

All that really matters in this war is our survival as a people, a nation, and the things for which the US as a nation stands around the world; and the declared intents of and being pursued by the Muslims. All else is garbage, red herrings intended or at least serving to distract from the former truths here; and giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Such acts used to be defined earlier in my lifetime as treasonous, traitorous and seditious in time of war. The enemies clearly in this war are both foreign and domestic.

It is my hope that all US citizens will know and accept these truths, and those who vote remember them in November this year, in 2008 and beyond when they are marking their ballots.

I also share often the following quotes with doubters, naysayers and others:

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/j/johnstuart108447.html for the John Stuart Mill quote on "War is an ugly thing ...."

http://www.theodore-roosevelt.com/trsorbonnespeech.html for Man in the Arena part of the speech, Citizenship in a Republic by Theodore Roosevelt, at the Sorbonne University, Paris, France, Apr. 23, 1910

That's all I have to say to you, Olbermann.

Goodbye and good luck

[cmiller623]

Need more links to these stories to convince the wife who "listens to the lame street press"....