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Central Texas woman run off road, raped (Illegal Aliens)
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Posted on 06/30/2006 8:33:11 AM PDT by Snickering Hound

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To: headstamp
He has basically come to the conclusion after personally witnessing numerous proceedings involving illegal aliens that there are two sets of laws in this country now. The illegals come out far better than citizens do in case after case.

He's right. US Citizens have no rights, only privileges.

Illegals STILL have rights and are protected by law precisely because they are NOT 'citizens'.

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14 CJS section 4 quotes State v. Manuel 20 NC 122:
"... the term `citizen' in the United States, is analogous to the term `subject' in the common law; the change of phrase has resulted from the change in government."

The US Supreme Court in Logan v. US, 12 SCt 617, 626:
"In Baldwin v. Franks ... it was decided that the word `citizen' .... was used in its political sense, and not as synonymous with `resident', `inhabitant', or `person' ..."

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Anyone born outside Washington D.C. are supposed to be State Citizens, NOT 'US Citizens'.

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U.S. v. Anthony 24 Fed. 829 (1873)
"The term resident and citizen of the United States is distinguished from a Citizen of one of the several states, in that the former is a special class of citizen created by Congress."

Gardina v. Board of Registrars of Jefferson County, 160 Ala. 155; 48 So. 788 (1909)
"There are, then, under our republican form of government, two classes of citizens, one of the United States and one of the state".

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The original intent of the phrase 'citizen of the United States':

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_17s22.html
§ 1218. The inhabitants enjoy all their civil, religious, and political rights. They live substantially under the same laws, as at the time of the cession, such changes only having been made, as have been devised, and sought by themselves. They are not indeed citizens of any state, entitled to the privileges of such; but they are citizens of the United States. They have no immediate representatives in congress.

61 posted on 06/30/2006 10:47:29 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I will hold my government to the intent of the Founders.... whether it likes it or not!)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Nail their member and nutsack to a stump with 4 16 penny nails and give them a dull knife. If they want to go home, they will have to use the knive.

I'll donate the nails.

62 posted on 06/30/2006 10:49:14 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: MamaTexan
Anyone born outside

Anyone born outside

63 posted on 06/30/2006 10:50:00 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I will hold my government to the intent of the Founders.... whether it likes it or not!)
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To: MamaTexan
Where the HELL are the 'attempted murder' charges?!?

Exactly. They beat and stabbed her and left her for dead in a bar ditch only after she played dead. If that's not attempted murder, I don't know what is. Don't tell me they've already pleaded the charges down.

64 posted on 06/30/2006 10:51:52 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: misterrob
Throw them in a US prison with no Hispanic prisoners and let everyone know what they did.....

Nice idea, but I don't think such an institution exists in this country. They might even run accross some homey's and be hailed as heros for getting some gringo...

65 posted on 06/30/2006 11:01:37 AM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: MamaTexan
Right on! Premeditated murder...at that.

They beat and stabbed this poor girl, and left her for dead.

Only aggravated assault? Lord, help us...

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66 posted on 06/30/2006 11:15:07 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: AFreeBird

Rapists don't do well in prison. Without a gang to protect them they will serve...


67 posted on 06/30/2006 11:17:37 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: Tall_Texan
http://www.kcentv.com/

See video on right hand side of page.....
68 posted on 06/30/2006 11:23:56 AM PDT by LA Woman3
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Javier Guzman Martinez, 17, was arrested Wednesday on aggravated assault and aggravated kidnapping charges.
69 posted on 06/30/2006 11:28:24 AM PDT by LA Woman3
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To: after dark
We will eventually find out their identities.

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A tip from a Mexia resident led authorities to the two men who were charged with aggravated sexual assault and aggravated kidnapping Thursday.

Javier Guzman Martinez, 17, of Mexico was arrested in Limestone County and Noel Darwin Hernandez of Honduras was arrested at a bus station in Waco as he tried to leave the country, Wilson said.

70 posted on 06/30/2006 11:44:05 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ embraces sinners; liberals embrace the sin.)
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To: pgyanke

Let's hope that is all of them.

Many other rapists have escaped by running across the border.


71 posted on 06/30/2006 12:11:43 PM PDT by after dark (I love hateful people. They help me unload karmic debt.)
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To: Snickering Hound

". . . family oriented, hard-working people coming here for a better life . . ."



Presidente Bush can spin it as he likes, but I'm not buying the notion that importing millions of Hispanics is good for this country. The Hispanic uptick in crime in my area also cannot be ignored. I'll pay extra for lettuce, thank you.


72 posted on 06/30/2006 12:27:21 PM PDT by reelfoot
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To: Tall_Texan

First off, they saw her at a local video store and followed her. She gave a description but one of the suspects told someone a few details and that person called in the tips with his name to the local police dept. . When that suspect got questioned, he confessed and he ratted out his accomplice. Mexia and the surrounding areas are small towns where word travels fast. Whomever he told the few details to, well it wasn't hard to figure out what crime he had committed.


73 posted on 06/30/2006 1:41:10 PM PDT by DeeB667
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To: Snickering Hound
Wilson said both men are apparently in the United States illegally and will be held without bond on immigration charges. Hernandez is from Honduras, and Martinez is from Mexico, Wilson said.

How soon before the idiot democrats "forgive" this "undocumented" monster? Will they have candle light vigils for him? Bet on it.

74 posted on 06/30/2006 1:51:38 PM PDT by GOPJ ('Pinch' has been named al-Qaida's Employee of the Month for the 12th straight month-Phil Brennan)
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To: txdoda
Tx wasn't too bad, having lived, yrs. ago in CA........however south Louisiana was summin' else, both accents & spelling......V's are W's & everything that ends in eaux is pronounced O.

Eaux my!

75 posted on 06/30/2006 1:53:45 PM PDT by Max in Utah ("I left my heart.... in Saint Frank")
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To: Huntress

Why can't we put illegals like this into holding cells until we can fill up a cargo plane with them? Send the planes out over the jungles well south of the US, and parachute drop the illegal baggage back home.


76 posted on 06/30/2006 2:02:58 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President** I get it, Glenn.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Forcible rape should be a capital crime.

Forcible rape, when followed by murder or attempted murder, should be punished by pain. That or my favorite historical punishment -- removal of all human rights. That means that if the family or even strangers want to lock them in the basement and torture them for years, they have no more rights than a rock and nobody will do anything about it.

77 posted on 06/30/2006 2:18:36 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Snickering Hound
Another tragedy. Another life changed forever. Another crime.

And the border remains open.

I'll vote in 2006. But not for anyone who doesn't support sealing the borders.

78 posted on 06/30/2006 3:01:11 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: gubamyster

Bump!


79 posted on 06/30/2006 4:13:34 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This more than mere forcible rape. First she stabbed with an organic weapon, then the perps stabbed her with cold steel.

Last time I looked, such was called rape followed by attempted murder.

In case anyone is perplexed by the gratuitous violence towards women so often all too often shown by Hispanic males, do remember that the Arabs ran Spain for many centuries.

Arabs have a particularly low view of women, and arguably some aspects of Spanish culture is a case of Monkey See, Monkey Do.

Bad Monkey! BAD, BAAAAAD Monkey!
80 posted on 06/30/2006 5:09:20 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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