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To: Matchett-PI; Alamo-Girl

She is a gift, isn't she...:>)

The 6th day...the last quarter billion years.

Fascinating stuff. What worries me is the description of God that results. I assume humanity was created at the beginning of that quarter billion years or is that assumption wrong? If it is wrong, then how could instantaneous in God's domain translate to lengthy duration with many changes within time?


68 posted on 06/30/2006 10:55:06 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: xzins; Alamo-Girl
"What worries me is the description of God that results"

Wisdom

The book of Hebrews, while never identifying Jesus directly as Wisdom, does indicate an equivalence. In verse 3 the rare Greek term apaygasma is used to describe Jesus as the "brightness of God's glory," just as the word is used in Wisdom of Solomon (7:25-26) to describe Wisdom's radiance. Hebrews ascribes to Jesus the same functions that the Philonic/Alexandrian Wisdom literature assigned to Wisdom: mediator of divine revelation, agent and sustainer of creation, and reconciler of God and man (Wisdom of Solomon 7:21-8:1). For more on this word see here.

Hebrews also says of Jesus what Philo says of the Logos. Philo referred to Wisdom as the "charakter of the eternal Word" just as Hebrews uses this term of Jesus. Hebrews also "asserts the superiority of Jesus over a group of individuals and classes that served mediatorial functions in Alexandrian thought," including angels, Moses, Melchizidek, and the high priest. Finally, in Ecclesiasticus, Wisdom, though universal in scope, by God's decree rests in Jerusalem, and is regarded as having the role of the priesthood: "In the holy tabernacle I ministered before him, and so I was established in Zion." (24:10) Compare this proclamation with what is found in the Book of Hebrews chapters 3-10 describing Christ as our "high priest" ministering at a heavenly tabernacle."

Much more at the above link.

70 posted on 06/30/2006 11:53:01 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: xzins; Matchett-PI
Thank you so much for the excerpt from Schroeder's "Age of the Universe", Matchett-PI!

And thank you, xzins, for your encouragements! Hugs!!!

Fascinating stuff. What worries me is the description of God that results. I assume humanity was created at the beginning of that quarter billion years or is that assumption wrong? If it is wrong, then how could instantaneous in God's domain translate to lengthy duration with many changes within time?

Indeed, man was created on the sixth day (from the inception space/time coordinates) – but at what point “in” the sixth day, he was created, I cannot say. Also, I believe that Adam was not created in the physical realm but rather in the spiritual realm – the two realms intersecting at various points throughout Scripture.

But concerning domains, I assert that the Father does not “inhabit” domains of any kind – whether space/time (the physical realm) – or beyond space/time (the spiritual realm.) He may however manifest an image in His Creation to convey properties of Himself, e.g. “I am”.

Thus when He speaks relative to a time, particularly “in” such a manifestation in time - it is for our benefit – whether the inception of creation, prophesy, the current heaven and earth – or the one to come.

I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth [it], that [men] should fear before him. That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past. – Ecc 3:14-15

Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: - Isa 46:9-10

Thus when He establishes a thing, it “is” regardless of domain.

But of that day and [that] hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. – Mark 13:32


72 posted on 06/30/2006 1:24:43 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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