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To: xzins; Matchett-PI
Thank you so much for the excerpt from Schroeder's "Age of the Universe", Matchett-PI!

And thank you, xzins, for your encouragements! Hugs!!!

Fascinating stuff. What worries me is the description of God that results. I assume humanity was created at the beginning of that quarter billion years or is that assumption wrong? If it is wrong, then how could instantaneous in God's domain translate to lengthy duration with many changes within time?

Indeed, man was created on the sixth day (from the inception space/time coordinates) – but at what point “in” the sixth day, he was created, I cannot say. Also, I believe that Adam was not created in the physical realm but rather in the spiritual realm – the two realms intersecting at various points throughout Scripture.

But concerning domains, I assert that the Father does not “inhabit” domains of any kind – whether space/time (the physical realm) – or beyond space/time (the spiritual realm.) He may however manifest an image in His Creation to convey properties of Himself, e.g. “I am”.

Thus when He speaks relative to a time, particularly “in” such a manifestation in time - it is for our benefit – whether the inception of creation, prophesy, the current heaven and earth – or the one to come.

I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth [it], that [men] should fear before him. That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past. – Ecc 3:14-15

Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: - Isa 46:9-10

Thus when He establishes a thing, it “is” regardless of domain.

But of that day and [that] hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. – Mark 13:32


72 posted on 06/30/2006 1:24:43 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

You're welcome, but here is an objection that was made a little bit ago against what Schroeder wrote. Have you heard this objection before?

"Gerald Schroeder's scheme for matching up the days of Genesis doesn't work. He has to invent the idea that "waters above the heavens" is when the Milky Way formed, but the earth wasn't even around at the time so the text is pretty meaningless if his interpretation is correct.

Also, he says that "let there be light" on Day 1 is when the cosmic background radiation thermally separated from the primordial plasma. However, the problem with that is the Bible describes the period before that event as having darkness on the surface of the earth's waters, whereas the primordial plasma was intensely bright before the light decoupled thermally from it.

Just because the light had a very short mean free path (wasn't yet statistically decoupled) doesn't mean that it wasn't there. The light in the primordial plasma was many times brighter than under a noon day sun on Earth today.

So again, if Schroeder's interpretation is correct, then the Bible text makes no sense. Bottom line: he is really stretching to make his scheme work." ~ Phil Metzger - ASA list 6/30/2006


73 posted on 06/30/2006 2:22:23 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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