Posted on 06/28/2006 8:06:10 AM PDT by Matchett-PI
Quote: "Conflicts between Science and the Bible arise from either a lack of scientific knowledge or a defective understanding of the Bible." ~ Moses Maimonides
On these particular threads it is interesting those ostensibly pro-science (eg the religious evolutionite cult) have both lack of science and Biblical knowledge yet are arrogant and hubristic in their ignorance.
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Lewis was an evolutionist. Lewis was also a human creature, and fallible.
crevolist ping (about narnia's writer).
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Oh, oh. I think we know where this will go ...
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I don't think it really matters who, or how learned one is, when discussing matters which are unknown, and probably will be forever.
Sounds to me like Lewis focused on what he knew the most about and politely evaded the man's attempts to draw him into an argument he wasn't trained for -- in the sort of display of good sense we've come to expect from Lewis.
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Bears repeating.
ditto.
Good quote! :)
Re: "The" theory of evolution:
"...What is the significance of such a theory? To address this question is to enter the field of epistemology.
A theory is a metascientific elaboration distinct from the results of observation, but consistent with them. By means of it a series of independent data and facts can be related and interpreted in a unified explanation. A theory's validity depends on whether or not it can be verified; it is constantly tested against the facts; wherever it can no longer explain the latter, it shows its limitations and unsuitability. It must then be rethought.
Furthermore, while the formulation of a theory like that of evolution complies with the need for consistency with the observed data, it borrows certain notions from natural philosophy.
And, to tell the truth, rather than the theory of evolution, we should speak of several theories of evolution.
On the one hand, this plurality has to do with the different explanations advanced for the mechanism of evolution, and on the other, with the various philosophies on which it is based. Hence the existence of materialist, reductionist, and spiritualist interpretations. What is to be decided here is the true role of philosophy and, beyond it, of theology.
Consequently, theories of evolution which, in accordance with the philosophies inspiring them, consider the spirit as emerging from the forces of living matter or as a mere epiphenomenon of this matter are incompatible with the truth about man. Nor are they able to ground the dignity of the person. ..."
Excerpted from:
Theories of Evolution http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft9703/articles/johnpaul.html
John Paul II
Copyright (c) 1997 First Things 71 (March 1997): 28-29.
Address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, October 22, 1996
That is something that many have accurately pointed out.
backatcha! :)
"Sounds to me like Lewis focused on what he knew the most about and politely evaded the man's attempts to draw him into an argument he wasn't trained for -- in the sort of display of good sense we've come to expect from Lewis." ~ Taliesan
J.P. Holding also displays that sort of good sense, but makes the same point that Lewis made about the most rabid defenders of Evolution:
Choking on Pretzel Logic
http://www.tektonics.org/af/evologic.html
Why I Don't Buy (or Sell) the Evolution Story
James Patrick Holding
Editing Note: I have to say that since I first wrote this article, I'd say that I have even greater inclinations against evolution because of the number of proponents I have met who uncritically spout such nonsense as, "Jesus evolved from Mithra." But keep this one online as a secondary reason.
Yep! bttt
for later reading
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