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To: billbears
Why don't you tell us then what Representative Collmer said then?

Sure. Here's the anecdote in its entirety:

A VERMONT STORY

From a speech on emancipation, by Sen. J.R. Doolittle of Wisconsin, March 19, 1862.[2]

I can give you a case directly in point. A very distinguished gentleman from Vermont was first elected to Congress, I believe, about 1843. One of the well-to-do farmers in his neighborhood called upon him, the evening before he was to leave for Washington, to pay his respects. He found him in his office, and told him that he came for that purpose, and to bid him good bye.

"And now, judge," said he, "when you get to Washington, I want to have you take hold of this negro business, and dispose of it in some way or other; have slavery abolished, and be done with it."

"Well," said the judge, "as the people who own these slaves, or claim to own them, have paid their money for them, and hold them as property under their State laws, would it not be just, if we abolish slavery, that some provision should be made to make them compensation?"

He hesitated, thought earnestly for a while, and, in a serious tone, replied: "Yes, I think that would be just, and I will stand my share of the taxes." Although a very close and economical man, he was willing to bear his portion of the taxes.

"But," said the judge, "there is one other question; when the negroes are emancipated, what shall be done with them? They are a poor people; they will have nothing; there must be some place for them to live. Do you think it would be any more than fair that we should take our share of them?"

"Well, what would be our share in the town of Woodstock?" he inquired.

The judge replied: "There are about two thousand five hundred people in Woodstock; and if you take the census and make the computation, you will find that there would be about one for every five white persons; so that here in Woodstock our share would be about five hundred."

"What!" said he, "five hundred negroes in Woodstock! Judge, I called to pay my respects; I bid you good evening;" and he started for the door, and mounted his horse. As he was about to leave, he turned round and said: "Judge, I guess you need not do anything more about that negro business on my account." [Laughter.]

Mr. President, perhaps I am not going too far when I say that honorable gentleman sits before me now.

Mr. [Jacob] COLLAMER [R-Vt.]. As the gentleman has called me out, I may be allowed to say that the inhabitants of the town were about three thousand, and the proportion was about one to six.

All Collamer is doing is confirming the story and correcting the population of the town. Are you actually trying to claim, based on this story, that the 20% of the population of Vermont in 1843 were slaves?
52 posted on 06/19/2006 5:07:07 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Heyworth
No I am stating that in 1843, according to the US census of 1840 and 1850, Vermont reported no slaves. And yet here in 1862, we have a Representative from the state of Vermont stating clearly that in one town alone, there were approximately 500 slaves. Now either this US Representative is a liar or the citizens of the state of Vermont were not reporting factually. I would tend to believe the US Representative. Which means no matter what bills Vermont passed, slavery was alive (and doing quite well with a ratio of one to six) at least in Woodstock
55 posted on 06/19/2006 5:50:16 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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