Canadian Conservative MP Calls Christian Political Activists “Taliban” and “Flowers of Evil”

LifeSiteNews ^ | 5/9/06 | John Jalsevac

[spatso]

"Nations have to move on and not perpetuate old grievances."

Of course, you are right. But, it would wrong for Canadian conservatives not to appreciate there are some really hurt feelings from the past few years.

[Fair Go]

Ever seen pictures of Aussies when they came out of Japanese prisoner of War camps in World War 2?

[spatso]

Heat got scorched by Mavs. Going to bed, Goodnight

[kanawa]

Good night, spatso

[Windsong]

“I’ll go down fighting to stop any faith-based group, Christian, Islamic or whatever, from using our precious political system to impose their value system and religious beliefs on the rest of us,” Turner wrote on his blog on June 6.

Writing this crap in an online diary (and from a politician no less) is just BEGGING for an ass whipping.

Future politicians: Don't keep an online blog/diary/crap-quota-manifest if you dont want your ass handed to you by the general public.

[spatso]

I have seen a British production on the siege of Hong Kong and the imprisonment of the soldiers over the balance of the war. It was incredibly brutal. Were Australians there? I don't think I have ever seen anything else on Japanese prisoners of war. One of my all time favorite movies is Bridge Over the River Kwai. But, I got the impression that the movie would be pretty tame if you compared it to the actual conditions of some of the camps such as Hong Kong.

[Fair Go]

Try Changi and the fall of Singapore. Also, I believe Canadians were involved at Hong Kong.

[Fair Go]

Also have a look at the prisoner of war camps on the Burma-Thailand railway.

[Squawk 8888]

Hong Kong was mostly Canadians and Brits. The Aussies fought in Singapore (and maybe Burma).

[fanfan]

But, it would wrong for Canadian conservatives not to appreciate there are some really hurt feelings from the past few years.

Now we are discussing your feelings?

You really are a liberal.

[spatso]

Just spent 45 minutes on Digger History web site. Amazing site. Read stories on Changi and the Burma Railway and the big Japanese Prison break (I think they said 231 prisoners were killed, mostly by their comrades for not cooperating in the breakout). It was interesting to read the comparison stories on the bridge over the Kwai River and the movie.
I am not sure it was on Digger History, it may have been another site but, it was a summary of a study on some of the Changi prisoners lives after the war. The study looked through the eyes of the Australian war prisoner's wives on the affect of their prison experience over the rest of their lives. It was really interesting to read about the affects of PTSD 30 and 40 years after the fact.

[Fair Go]

Aussies were in places like Singapore, Burma, and of course New Guinea. The Japanese dropped more than 50 bombs on Australia. Initially the Japanese did not intend to invade Australia as they thought the locals would be very hard to subdue. However, they did intend to invade New Zealand. Apparently they thought it would be a nice place for holidays. Canada, the US, Britain, Australia, New Zealand - all contributed to victory in the war in the Pacific.

[GMMAC]

"You know that is exactly the self righteous, dismissive Canadian attitude that I am talking about."

Given that I clearly classed these sort of remarks coming from either side of the border as "emotional and/or opportunistic", how is this any sort of specifically "self righteous, dismissive Canadian attitude"?

Surely conservatives on both sides of the border routinely deride anyone anywhere on the ideological spectrum offering 'solutions' which plainly ignore the negative impact of same on cross-border trade as well as related jobs & economic productivity?

In terms of real-politik, Congressman Hostetler's proposal is as foolish & short-sighted as anyone in either nation endorsing the Kyoto Accord & for virtually the same reasons.

When it comes to your personal 'hot button' issues - like the gay agenda & illegal immigration - it certainly appears you become illogical, emotion-driven & lose all sense of 'bigger picture' political perspective.

[proud_yank]

I'm still waiting for your answer regarding what area of the world you live in.

(Crickets)

[spatso]

"Given that I clearly classed these sort of remarks coming from either side of the border as "emotional and/or opportunistic", how is this any sort of specifically "self righteous, dismissive Canadian attitude"?

I think you make a mistake if you assume that the American and Canadian experience are symmetrical. Indeed they have been very different. Some, like myself, may take offense when a Canadian presumes he can attack a US Congressman in a cavalier, almost dismissive manner. When you do that, you not only dismiss him but, also, the like minded people who may have similar thoughts. I have no difficulty with your arguing against the merit of a policy proposal or an idea or an action or any failure to act, but you can still be respectful of a duly elected representative of the American people.
I realize I have made no headway. I have not been able to convince one person on this thread of the merit of my concerns. So, it is time to move on. I no longer have a desire to continue the thread. It is time for me to go back to border security, immigration and bible threads. I understand you will want to take one more shot at me and I shall read it, but I will post my response privately to you.

[GMMAC]

"I understand you will want to take one more shot at me and I shall read it, but I will post my response privately to you."

No shot per se.
Only the observation that your final (?) post confirms that you practice a double standard in two respects:

Doubtless, you'd have had no problem, if in the course of supporting (as I do) your opposition to the radical homosexual agenda, I'd made disparaging remarks with regard to its leading U.S. Congressional proponent: the ever appalling Barney Frank.

Secondly, you seem to believe permissible cross-border sniping by conservatives at liberal targets of opportunity to be an exclusively one-way street with ours always 'in season' but with the likes of Senators Clinton, Kennedy & Kerry protected by something akin to an imagined game law.

To cite a blatantly American source on the essence of being a liberal:
“The absolute conviction that there is one set of rules for you, and another, completely different set of rules for everyone else.” ~ Ann Coulter

[CaptainCanada]

it would wrong for Canadian conservatives not to appreciate there are some really hurt feelings from the past few years

Ahh yes, - "feelings"... Now there's a nice liberal concept.
O.K. C'mon up to Toronto and you'll get a free massage..

[DesScorp]

So...Canada has their RINOs too...

[GMMAC]

"So...Canada has their RINOs too..."

Up here we mostly use the term "red-Torys" but "CINO's" nicely makes the same point on both sides of the border.

Once the "TRUE BLUES" left, ours had their own little Party - the 'Progressive Conservatives' - all to themselves for well over a decade ... until we crushed it - LOL!

[Heartofsong83]

Clinton not so much, but Al Gore has been the Liberals' #1 cheerleader...