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To: Jim_Curtis
Every piece of legislation that leaves the house will have border enforcement amendments tacked on so Bush and the senate won't be able to kill it or hide from it.

Doesn't matter. If the House is seen as being the obstacle to an immigration bill, Tancredo will spend the next two years getting nothing, for sure, on illegal immigration.

"No bill" translates, for the voting public, into "no action, no reform." If you think that works in the House GOP's favor, you're mistaken.

50 posted on 06/05/2006 5:56:48 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: sinkspur
"No bill" translates, for the voting public, into "no action, no reform." If you think that works in the House GOP's favor, you're mistaken.

Sinskpur, please....you're dizzying me with the spinning here.

56 posted on 06/05/2006 6:00:56 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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To: sinkspur
"No bill" translates, for the voting public, into "no action, no reform." If you think that works in the House GOP's favor, you're mistaken.

The house will offer up everything that is in the house bill PLUS MORE in the form of amendments in other house bills and the senate can either pass it or shut down the government.

I'm sure it doesn't matter to Tancredo or anyone else how the problem is fixed so long as it's fixed. As long as at the end of the day sinkspur and Ted Kennedy aren't happy, it's victory.

64 posted on 06/05/2006 6:06:15 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: sinkspur

You are a broken record.


108 posted on 06/05/2006 6:35:55 PM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: sinkspur

What parts of the Senate bill would you keep?


139 posted on 06/05/2006 7:00:21 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: sinkspur

Every piece of legislation that leaves the house will have border enforcement amendments tacked on so Bush and the senate won't be able to kill it or hide from it.

Doesn't matter. If the House is seen as being the obstacle to an immigration bill, Tancredo will spend the next two years getting nothing, for sure, on illegal immigration.

"No bill" translates, for the voting public, into "no action, no reform." If you think that works in the House GOP's favor, you're mistaken.

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Wrong. Only if House Republicans go quietly.

House Republicans need to start shouting and making noise. Defiantly saying "not just no, but heck no".

Without one trace of apology. In fact, with utter defiance.

The House is right. They're 100% right. There's nothing wrong about anything they're doing.

The must not budge.

But they have to shout back. :)


202 posted on 06/05/2006 8:17:13 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (H.R.4437 > S.2611)
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To: sinkspur
""No bill" translates, for the voting public, into "no action, no reform." If you think that works in the House GOP's favor, you're mistaken."

Bingo...we have a winner.

307 posted on 06/05/2006 10:17:42 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: sinkspur
Doesn't matter. If the House is seen as being the obstacle to an immigration bill, Tancredo will spend the next two years getting nothing, for sure, on illegal immigration. "No bill" translates, for the voting public, into "no action, no reform." If you think that works in the House GOP's favor, you're mistaken.

Hey, Deacon, you've got it bass ackwards as usual. It is the Senate that is being the obstacle to a border security bill. It is the Senate that is holding up reform this year by insisting upon a bill that only the most liberal open borders types can support.

367 posted on 06/06/2006 12:43:38 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: sinkspur
"No bill" translates, for the voting public, into "no action, no reform."

An outcome I and 70% of America would be happy with, if compromise would enact portions of the Senate disasterpiece into Law. If GOP members of the House can sandbag this thing by refusing to compromise, it WILL, in fact, be viewed as a victory for the GOP in the House.

380 posted on 06/06/2006 12:57:48 AM PDT by HKMk23 (We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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To: sinkspur
"No bill" translates, for the voting public, into "no action, no reform." If you think that works in the House GOP's favor, you're mistaken.

Back in the days when the drive-by media was all there was you would be correct. Not now though, talk radio and the internet will make sure that the voters in the red-states know that we dodged a bullet.

444 posted on 06/06/2006 4:21:12 PM PDT by Mogollon
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