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Native Americans Recorded Supernova Explosion
New Scientist ^
| 6-5-2006
| Zeeya Merali - Kelly Young
Posted on 06/05/2006 4:27:51 PM PDT by blam
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posted on
06/05/2006 4:27:53 PM PDT
by
blam
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
06/05/2006 4:29:07 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
Has to be the bottom science story of the month. Anyone who didn't see and note a bright new star is two arrows short of a quiver.
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posted on
06/05/2006 4:30:42 PM PDT
by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com)
To: gcruse
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posted on
06/05/2006 4:32:29 PM PDT
by
kinoxi
To: blam
I'm not sure I get it. Are people shocked that supernovas seen in Europe were visible over the American continent too? Or are they just amazed that the American Indians were able to tilt their heads up and, you know, see them?
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posted on
06/05/2006 4:35:05 PM PDT
by
Antonello
(Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
To: blam
Maybe it represnts what frogs look like when you throw them at a rock.
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posted on
06/05/2006 4:35:52 PM PDT
by
giobruno
To: blam
It depicts a scorpion and an eight-pointed star. "I had just been reading about the supernova of AD 1006 and I knew it appeared in the constellation Scorpius, so the connection flashed into my mind." But how would the American Indians have known the constellation was "Scorpio"?
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posted on
06/05/2006 4:37:38 PM PDT
by
thoughtomator
(A thread without a comment on immigration is not complete)
To: Antonello; blam
What I find interesting is the scorpion.
Why should the two continents have the same celestial imagery?
To: blam
Then again, it just may be a really memorable 4th of July fireworks display.
Perhaps they threw a couple of scorpions on the grill, knocked back some "firewater" and next morning said,"man we had one supernova party last night"! :o)
...yeah, I know. It's a groaner.
To: giobruno
How does one come to acquire such knowledge anyway?
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posted on
06/05/2006 4:47:59 PM PDT
by
kinoxi
To: Antonello
are they just amazed that the American Indians were able to tilt their heads up and, you know, see them?
Well duh.
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posted on
06/05/2006 4:48:32 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
To: blam
It doesn't say how long the supernova might have been visible. Any idea?
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posted on
06/05/2006 4:49:00 PM PDT
by
raybbr
(You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!!!)
To: blam
Supernova 1006 AD"The remnant of this supernova was only rediscovered by radio astronomers in the 1960s."
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posted on
06/05/2006 4:49:22 PM PDT
by
blam
To: giobruno
To: giobruno
LOL! Or what spiders look like when Garfield the cat is finished with them.
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posted on
06/05/2006 4:56:14 PM PDT
by
F.J. Mitchell
(Dear US Senators, Reps. and Mr. President: Why are y'all abetting the destruction of our culture?)
To: From many - one.
Why should the two continents have the same celestial imagery? It wouldn't be the only time.
Ursa Major was known as the Bear to the American Indians as well as Greeks.
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posted on
06/05/2006 4:56:55 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(In 2002 the bottom 20% did 4.3% of the work, the top 20% did 33.9% of the work.)
To: From many - one.
Pioneer psychiatrist Dr. Carl Jung came up with his theory of psychic archetypes and the collective unconscious. Under this idea symbology is universal in the human race. This is why myths (the great flood myth for example) is found in various versions all over the world. And symbols like the cross or the swastika are used all over the world by different cultures.
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posted on
06/05/2006 5:00:58 PM PDT
by
Brad from Tennessee
(Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
To: Antonello
I'm not sure I get it. Are people shocked that supernovas seen in Europe were visible over the American continent too? Or are they just amazed that the American Indians were able to tilt their heads up and, you know, see them? Or why Native Americans who lived 1000 years ago are "pre-historic"?
Does the fact the the Euopeans didn't know they existed make them prehistoric?
Why do we continue to discount that they had civilzations, histories, cultures = even observatories, long before we knew there were continents here.
When the white man came, they found cities that surpassed those in Europe - and astronomical observatories, planetary observations, calendars, predictions and a numerical system that surpassed that of the old world.
Even Chaco Canyon was a remarkable community where over 5000 people lived for a few hundred years. They observed the planets, kept track of the solstices, ...
We try to ignore the histories of the Native Americans because we haven't grown up enough yet to admit they were not just a bunch of wild savages whose lands we were meant to take thru' "manifest destiny."
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posted on
06/05/2006 5:03:37 PM PDT
by
maine-iac7
(Lincoln: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.")
To: thoughtomator
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posted on
06/05/2006 5:04:41 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
To: From many - one.
What I find interesting is the scorpion. Why should the two continents have the same celestial imagery? Probably because Scorpio is one of the few constellations that actually looks like what it's suppose to be.
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posted on
06/05/2006 5:04:44 PM PDT
by
qam1
(There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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