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To: vertolet

And now they have a "normal peaceful state"?


17 posted on 06/03/2006 11:01:01 AM PDT by lizol (Liberal - a man with his mind open ... at both ends)
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To: lizol

=And now they have a "normal peaceful state"?=

Not state but region. The situation is better, it's obvious. Grozny is a city of builders now.

Though the combination of muslim ideology and bandit traditions is the biggest threat.

=I truly believe, that it would be much better for Russia to get rid of Chechnya - like it was for France with Algeria.=

Two problems:
1) Chechens are very militant nation.
2) Chechnya is not on another side of a sea but mostly surrounded by other regions of Russia.

=But to let them go Russia needs a courageous stateman - like De Gaulle was.=

The most important achievement of Putin and his command regarding Chechnya - he forced chechens to fight with their terrorists and bandits. De Gaulle sucks in comparison.


19 posted on 06/04/2006 9:33:48 PM PDT by vertolet
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To: lizol; Vorthax; Polak z Polski; Grzegorz 246; Lukasz; JoAnka; warsaw44; anonymoussierra; Juliusz; ..
And now they have a "normal peaceful state"?

The state that doesn't capture hospitals in neighboring territories, does not make raids for jasyr ([yassir] capturing slaves] does not have slave trade, does not bring the most crazed Wahabis from Saudi Arabia and Jordan, the state that does not stage outside invasions, the state that does not kidnaps visitors to for ransom or slave labor, the state that does not shelter organized crime which operates abroad. The state in which clans do not wage constant vendetta one against another, the state which does not promote Sharia law, the state that does not propagate idea of Caliphate and "liberation" of all Russia from infidel (Christian) rule. The state in which other ethnic/religious groups can feel secure.

Chechnya had its Wahabi independence for several years. It ended with the invasion of Dagestan and 9/11 style attacks in Moscow. No state worth its salt could tolerate this.

22 posted on 06/07/2006 7:32:36 AM PDT by A. Pole (It is better to have $5M and live in Weston Massachusetts than to have $20M and to live in Bogota.)
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