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BRITAIN'S "KNIFE CULTURE"
National Center for Policy Analysis ^ | 06/02/06 | César G. Soriano

Posted on 06/02/2006 2:04:03 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

In its latest and broadest attempt to get knives off the streets and especially out of the hands of young people, the British government announced a nationwide knife amnesty program, says USA Today. Police hope to collect 30,000 knives that will be turned in at police stations, churches, supermarkets and schools around the country.

** Of the 839 homicides in England and Wales in the 12 months ending Nov. 28 -- the most recent period for which Home Office figures are available -- 29 percent involved sharp instruments including knives, blades and swords.

** Firearms account for just 9 percent of murders in Britain. The murder rate in Britain is 15 per million people.

** In contrast, the U.S. murder rate is 55 per million, according to the FBI. Of those, 70 percent of murders were committed with firearms; just 14 percent involved knives or cutting instruments.

** In London alone, there were 12,589 knife-related crimes last year. Police say the people most likely to carry knives are males ages 15 to 18.

The House of Lords is considering a crime-reduction bill that would raise the minimum age to buy a knife from 16 to 18, give teachers the power to physically search students and mandate jail time for possessing a knife without cause. In the meantime, officials hope setting up collection bins across the country during the amnesty will raise awareness and help reduce knife attacks.

Norman Brennan, director of the Victims of Crime Trust, calls the amnesty program, "no more than a public relations exercise." The victims' rights advocacy group proposes tougher penalties, including a mandatory five-year prison sentence for anyone possessing a knife.

Source: César G. Soriano, "Amnesty Program Takes Aim at UK's 'Knife Culture,'" USA Today, May 31, 2005.

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To: CATravelAgent
It won't be long before Brit thugs look like this !
41 posted on 06/02/2006 3:23:23 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: bruinbirdman
Good grief - first they banned guns, then, of course the bad guys turn to other weapons - knives.

Now, a lot of folk are gonna turn in knives for cash - probably steal a lot of knives to turn in...

"including a mandatory five-year prison sentence for anyone possessing a knife.

So then the bad guys will find another weapon -

It ain't the guns. It ain't the knives.

It's the people! If they're violent and prone to hurt someone - they will find a weapon.

What's next? Somebody beans someone with a fire poker, a rock - "ban all rocks!" - etc., and and nauseum etc

42 posted on 06/02/2006 3:41:38 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Lincoln: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.")
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To: bruinbirdman

A sword cane is not an offensive weapon. A pearl handled derringer, now, that is an offensive weapon.


43 posted on 06/02/2006 3:44:35 PM PDT by magslinger (WWJBD? What Would Jack Bauer Do?)
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To: Argus
I predict a mass exodus of chefs from London.

Come to think of it - Professional chefs carry their own knives with them from place to place - they can cost from $300 to thousands - in cases, rather like a professional pool player.

My granddaughter is starting college this fall - and taking cooking. She is required to have a professional knife - the ones named start at $300...one knife.

So will chefs have to get personal dispensation? /s

44 posted on 06/02/2006 3:45:35 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Lincoln: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

LOL!


45 posted on 06/02/2006 3:50:40 PM PDT by xJones
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To: ichabod1
There have been quite serious movements toward restriction of kitchen knives recently.

right here in the US

A college student, honors, couple years ago, was arrested for having a butter knife in the back seat of her car - she was moving into the dorm and it was part of her stuff. She was suspended, etc etc...

Thus quoteth the College dumbheads: It's our zero tolerance policy"

46 posted on 06/02/2006 3:51:08 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Lincoln: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.")
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To: bruinbirdman

Britian, home of the BBC and the sissy nation.


47 posted on 06/02/2006 3:51:53 PM PDT by Modok
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To: bruinbirdman
Image hosted by Photobucket.com Right!!! Well then... henceforth, all things sharp will be banned, and all things pointy shall also be banned, and anything that is sharp AND pointy is right out!!!

Also, things that are blunt are banned, and things that are heavy are banned, and things that are blunt AND heavy are RIGHT OUT AS WELL!!!

Well, lets see... that about cover it then???

48 posted on 06/02/2006 4:47:33 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: bruinbirdman

After reading the stats posted here, I went on a fact finding mission. As near as I can find, you can get a picture from the following.

BBC News reported "a dramatic rise in violent crime" from 1998 to 1999 as revealed by
the British Home Office's July crime report. Violence against persons rose by 16%,
and sexual offenses rose by 4.5%. The robbery rate skyrocketed by 26%, adding to a
total violent crime rate increase of 16% in a single year.
In Australia,
Though lawmakers responsible for passing the ban promised a safer country, the
nation's crime statistics tell a different story:
Countrywide, homicides are up 3.2 percent;
Assaults are up 8.6 percent;
Amazingly, armed robberies have climbed nearly 45 percent;
In the Australian state of Victoria, gun homicides have climbed 300 percent;
In the 25 years before the gun bans, crime in Australia had been dropping steadily;
There has been a reported "dramatic increase" in home burglaries and assaults on the
elderly.

In contrast to near-complete bans in Australia and Great Britain, many U.S. states have passed liberal concealed carry laws that allow private citizens to obtain a permit to carry a loaded gun at all times in most public places. According to Yale University researcher John R. Lott, formerly of the University of Chicago and a gun control analyst who has conducted the most extensive study on the impact of concealed carry laws in the nation's history, the more liberal the right to carry, the less violent crime occurs.

Lott, who examined a mass of crime data spanning decades in all 3,200-plus counties in the United States, concluded that the most important factor in the deterrence of violent crimes were increased police presence and longer jail sentences. However, his research also demonstrated that liberal concealed carry laws were at the top of the list of reasons violent crime has dropped steadily since those laws began to be enacted by state legislatures a decade ago.

Lott's research indicates the criminal element has been successful in obtaining weapons despite widespread bans and gun control laws, while HCI continues to push for more laws that further restrict, license or eliminate handguns and long guns.

Can you guess which side of the fence I'm on?

From my cold dead hands.....
Snikks


49 posted on 06/02/2006 5:07:41 PM PDT by Snikks
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To: bruinbirdman

Next up:

"Britains culture of putting the boot in"


50 posted on 06/02/2006 5:23:48 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: futurerulerkch
But if they ban the kitchen knifes then how will the English eat their Biscuits?

They'll just have to gum them a bit longer than usual.

51 posted on 06/02/2006 5:26:56 PM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: Chickensoup

I think the best way to handle this is to not turn in all the knives, it is to turn in whatever is causing them to malfunction. Guns too.


52 posted on 06/02/2006 5:30:50 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: LauraleeBraswell

How about screwdrivers. And pencils. And...oh never mind. This isn't worth the bandwidth...


53 posted on 06/02/2006 5:32:00 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: bruinbirdman; mylife

54 posted on 06/02/2006 5:34:25 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny!)
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To: bruinbirdman
scotland 2001


55 posted on 06/02/2006 5:35:17 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: atomicpossum
Next up: Spoon control.

Spoon!


56 posted on 06/02/2006 5:36:24 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: bruinbirdman

This is just so funny in so many ways. Thanks for the post.


57 posted on 06/02/2006 5:37:10 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: TC Rider

We haven't done them, have we?
Right. Bananas.
How to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana.
Now you, come at me with this banana. Catch!
Now, it's quite simple to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana. First of all you force him to drop the banana; then, second, you eat the banana, thus disarming him. You have now rendered him 'elpless.


58 posted on 06/02/2006 5:40:38 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: BIGLOOK

Its becoming reality in merry olde england.

Yobbos and Hooligans


59 posted on 06/02/2006 5:41:17 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

Horrorshow!


60 posted on 06/02/2006 5:43:10 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny!)
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