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After the dust settles following the special treatment our government wishes to give the illegal invaders of this nation, there will be many more ridiculous decisions like this.

Standing for the pledge indicates respect and how can the invaders respect a nation that is obviously such a patsy?

1 posted on 06/02/2006 4:16:43 AM PDT by FerdieMurphy
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To: FerdieMurphy

I'm of the opinion that our job isn't to force the kids to recite the pledge, but to make them want to recite the pledge.


2 posted on 06/02/2006 4:18:57 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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''This is a decision about freedom and freedom in America means your right to not recite the Pledge of Allegiance or your right to recite the Pledge of Allegiance,'' said Howard Simon, executive director of the Florida ACLU. ``The impact that we hope this decision will have is that school officials begin to respect the conscience and dignity of young people.''

Then they should apply this same logic to a "morning prayer". Opt in or opt out. BTW, judges suck.

4 posted on 06/02/2006 4:23:05 AM PDT by Pit1
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To: FerdieMurphy
...there will be many more ridiculous decisions like this.

What's ridiculous about it? It's consistent with legal precedent, and the right to say what you want certainly includes the right to not say what you don't want to.

5 posted on 06/02/2006 4:27:30 AM PDT by Grut
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To: FerdieMurphy

When an education system is twisted by the machinations of the left into teaching young minds that European Americans killed, subjugated, and stole everything from everybody, everywhere, how can this same system expect students to pledge allegiance to this it. The ACLU is so sick it is suing members within its own league, the teachers union, albeit at our expense.


6 posted on 06/02/2006 4:30:12 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Illegal Aliens will take down the Democrats and Republicans and give rise to a new American party)
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To: FerdieMurphy
It's stuff like this that make me more and more sure that we will be ok in November. Every time people forget why we can't let the left get control of our lives, an idiot like this who wants to give school children the right to disrespect America, comes along to remind us.
7 posted on 06/02/2006 4:30:42 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (John Spencer: Fighting to save America from Hillary Clinton..)
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To: FerdieMurphy
Thanks for the post.

If I were a student, I'd personally would like to know who is supportive of America and who isn't. It makes it a lot easier to know what kids I would want to associate with and which ones get the sh*t kickout of if a situation would arise.

12 posted on 06/02/2006 4:40:34 AM PDT by moonman (`)
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``The impact that we hope this decision will have is that school officials begin to respect the conscience and dignity of young people.''

Too bad the ACLU does not think this way about abortion, the gay agenda, and student prayer. The ACLU has no respect for the conscience and dignity of people they don't agree with.

14 posted on 06/02/2006 4:48:59 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: FerdieMurphy

It's better to have all of the communists seated during the pledge so they are more easily identified by the patriots.


15 posted on 06/02/2006 5:10:54 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: FerdieMurphy

Impeach him.


19 posted on 06/02/2006 5:44:41 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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This judge should be removed from the bench. Unless this little demon can prove he bleongs to some religious cult the U.S. has mistakenly excused from pledging allegience like the Quakers or Jehovah's wintesses, the little brat should be forced to do so.

How can any nation survive by permitting its citizens to refuse pledging allegiance to said nation???


20 posted on 06/02/2006 5:45:08 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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Another traitorous anti-American judge whu should be brought to the bar of justice himself.....for TREASON!!!!!!


Q: What do you say to a lawyer with an I.Q. of 50?

A: "Good morning, Your Honor."
23 posted on 06/02/2006 6:25:43 AM PDT by Crispus Attucks Patriot
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To: FerdieMurphy; derllak

At the risk of being flamed into charcoal, I happen to agree with this Judge.

I do not owe my allegiance to anyone or anything other than God.


31 posted on 06/02/2006 8:49:23 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Children are not citizens, that is self-evident. They can be be compelled to say the Pledge. We compel them to go to school in the first place, and once there compel them to say and do any number of things, why shouldn't they be allowed to opt out of going to school or participating in any given class, history for example, "on grounds of personal or political belief?" It might be a good idea to allow students to sit out the pledge as a lesson in freedom of opinion but Constitutional Right? No way.


41 posted on 06/02/2006 10:31:17 AM PDT by jordan8
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To: FerdieMurphy
Standing for the pledge indicates respect and how can the invaders respect a nation that is obviously such a patsy?

I tend to think very little of those who will not stand for the pledge (with exceptions for those whose religious beliefs forbid such actions under any circumstances, such as Jehova's Witnesses).

I also tend to think very little of governments that attempt to make standing for the pledge compulsory.
44 posted on 06/02/2006 12:30:56 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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Do we have three branches or two?

Seriously, if the legislative law is so irrelevant then why bother? We could have a fortune in pensions and we could rent out the capitol bildings for bar mitzvahs and weddings.


50 posted on 06/02/2006 12:49:16 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: FerdieMurphy

The student is FREE to disrespect our flag and his nation by NOT reciting the Pledge of Allegiance BECAUSE our MILITARY men and women have NO QUALMS about defending the RIGHTS of this young sorry pathetic @sswipe!!


58 posted on 06/02/2006 4:00:13 PM PDT by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: FerdieMurphy

They should allow people to not stand for the pledge.

If you're a kid, remember those kids who don't stand when you go to the lunch room, or to the play ground, and after school.

If you're an adult, remember those adults and/or their children who don't stand when you do business or socialize.

And remember this judge, and whoever appointed him next time you vote.


78 posted on 06/12/2006 9:02:12 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: FerdieMurphy

This judge, U.S. District Judge Kenneth Ryskamp, needs to be impeached. Where in the US Constitution does it say you cannot require the pledge to be recited by those we are educating?


79 posted on 07/02/2006 6:19:20 AM PDT by Rapscallion (They're not pro-America; they're democrats first.)
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