[Pelayo]

So I disagree with you -- pushing *our* definition of who we are and what we stand for is absolutely a 'conservative' approach.

I want to push *My* definition of "red" to include other possibilities like... "green." After all, "modern red" has so much more going on under the hood these days.

Words mean things, if you changes them to convenience a political convention they lose their original meaning. You can change conservative to mean the attitudes or philosophy of the modern political movement, but you will not be able to converse with those using the older meaning. You will be speaking a new speak.

[Dominic Harr]

I want to push *My* definition of "red" to include other possibilities like... "green." After all, "modern red" has so much more going on under the hood these days.

'Red' can also mean a communist, tho.

Much like in this case -- a political movement exists. A large group of Americans, actually a majority, believe in 'smaller govt, strong defense, etc'. We call this 'Conservative'.

The current 'definition' that the world uses to describe us, is 'C = opposed to change'.

They have taken control of the debate by defining us.

Well I say it's time we define ourselves . . .