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IRA were behind 58pc of Troubles
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| 30 May 2006
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Posted on 05/30/2006 1:19:49 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite
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Some people around here seem to think the IRA are the good guys - think again fools!
To: Happygal; Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; SomeguyfromIreland; Youngblood; Fergal; Cian; col kurz; ..
Will the pro-IRA fools admit they are wrong?
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posted on
05/30/2006 1:20:58 PM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
To: Irish_Thatcherite
You don't understand - all those murders were committed by renegade splinter groups of the IRA or by Protestant paramilitaries killing their own demographic just to make the IRA look bad.
The actual IRA is an organization dedicated primarily to handing out free pieces of teacake at garden parties.
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posted on
05/30/2006 1:23:51 PM PDT
by
wideawake
To: wideawake
You forgot to add that the tea parties are to raise funds for the bandaging of boo boos on the widdle paws of cute puppies.
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posted on
05/30/2006 1:28:00 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Every lady in this land hath 20 nails on each hand five and twenty on hand and feet)
To: wideawake
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posted on
05/30/2006 1:32:31 PM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
To: Irish_Thatcherite
Indeed. I'd like to hope this has some influence on the British government's attitude towards IRA/Sinn Fein, but with Peter 'Britain's presence in the north continues to be the main obstacle to the solution to the problem' Hain in office, even hope is too optimistic.
To: Irish_Thatcherite
The IRA are gangsters.
And like all gangsters, they only way they command respect is thru pure, naked fear.
They offer no hope, just threats and misery. They're scum.
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
And a bird watching expedition to Colombia....
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posted on
05/30/2006 1:34:44 PM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
To: canuck_conservative
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posted on
05/30/2006 1:35:46 PM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
To: Daniel Wroe
Blair successive NIO appointments have been one big disaster over another - his strategy is to appease the IRA inorder to keep the bombs out of Britain, with little regard of the consequences for Ireland, both north and south.
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posted on
05/30/2006 1:41:12 PM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
To: Irish_Thatcherite
A sidelight of Pres. Bush's WOT has been the weakening of the IRA.
Many of IRA's justifications for terror just don't work now that they are seen to be identical in some respects to those used by Muslim terrorists. I sensed this would happen only a couple days after 9/11.
Another victory in the WOT is that over the IRA IMHO.
To: Siena Dreaming
Actually, I think the IRA have merely switched tactics - the ceasefire was simply a tactical retreat in order to galvinise electoral support of it's front organisation in both NI and the Republic - basically they are concentrating on their second agenda - a socialist dictatorship.
Irish democracy is in for turbulent times.
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posted on
05/30/2006 1:50:30 PM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
To: Irish_Thatcherite
They were looking for the church nesting boom-boom bird. < /bitter sarcasm>
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posted on
05/30/2006 1:51:26 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(Every lady in this land hath 20 nails on each hand five and twenty on hand and feet)
To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Yes, and 117 people died in the process. :(
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posted on
05/30/2006 1:55:17 PM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
To: Irish_Thatcherite
An obviously pro-Unionist study that adds little to the known facts, but simply tries to apply the phrase "ethnic cleansing" to the troubles in Fermanagh, and not very convincingly. As the authors themselves point out, Protestants were basically unmolested ion Fermanagh if they weren't a part of the security forces. It leaves out the close collusion between the Protestant population of Fermanagh and the security forces and given the bitterness of such conflicts a far better case can be made that the IRA and Republicans showed remarkable restraint there. Certainly nothing ever happened to the Protestant population of Fermanagh that was anything near as bad as what happened to Catholics in many parts of Northern Ireland, esp. Belfast. It should also be pointed out that the majority of those killed during the "Troubles" by Republicans were members of the security forces, while the majority of those killed by loyalists were civilians, often targeted for no other reason than suspicion of being Catholic, a bit of context for this study.
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posted on
05/30/2006 2:22:26 PM PDT
by
jordan8
To: jordan8; Happygal; Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; SomeguyfromIreland; Youngblood; Fergal; Cian; ...
An obviously pro-Unionist study that adds little to the known facts, but simply tries to apply the phrase "ethnic cleansing" to the troubles in Fermanagh, and not very convincingly. As the authors themselves point out, Protestants were basically unmolested ion Fermanagh if they weren't a part of the security forces. It leaves out the close collusion between the Protestant population of Fermanagh and the security forces and given the bitterness of such conflicts a far better case can be made that the IRA and Republicans showed remarkable restraint there. Certainly nothing ever happened to the Protestant population of Fermanagh that was anything near as bad as what happened to Catholics in many parts of Northern Ireland, esp. Belfast. It should also be pointed out that the majority of those killed during the "Troubles" by Republicans were members of the security forces, while the majority of those killed by loyalists were civilians, often targeted for no other reason than suspicion of being Catholic, a bit of context for this study. Another IRA apologist. I actually live in Ireland, I know what the IRA are, so spare me the lecture.. geez you IRA sympathizers twist everything to suit your screwed up view of Irish affairs.
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posted on
05/30/2006 2:30:16 PM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
To: Irish_Thatcherite
I was raised to dislike the British and to sympathize with the IRA. I now like the British and view them as good friends of the US, and I disapprove of the IRA splinter groups and their tactics. I also dislike the views and policies of Sinn Fein. So, yes, the IRA IS a terrorist organization.
I know the history of Ireland, and I know the IRA and Sinn Fein were once the good guys under Michael Collins, and that the conflict has since lost it's religious foundation. That is a long time ago now. The only point I agree with the IRA now is the reunification of Ireland. I don't care if people in the Republic do not want it for socioeconomic reasons. Ireland should be whole.
I am glad the IRA announced it's end to armed conflict (at least in gesture). I only wish the Unionsts and other "Orange" factions would do the same. I absolutely hate Paisley and his son.
I do have a problem with what Ireland is becoming. The Republic is becoming too wealthy too fast, and the people are starting to lose their identity, and the characteristics that made the Irish people great. The people have been becoming less friendly over the years, are becoming more materialistic, more secular, and some are starting to become arrogant. The growth rate is not going to last forever, and as the wages become too high, the American (and some European) companies supporting the growth will start to outsource, and so the country is likely to go into a depression, especially with all of the EU regulations.
The Pro-IRA people on this site have every right to voice their opinions here. Just deal with it, like how we deal with all of the anti-Catholic bigots who spew their crap here. This is first and foremost, an AMERICAN conservative site, and any outsider that comes in here dictating who is and who is not a troll, is likely to be nothing more than a troll himself.
After doing a quick search under your name I find that you post almost exclusively on the IRA. Now, I subscribe to The Irish Voice, and I know that the Ulstermen are very active. Perhaps you should start posting on their doings as well, otherwise I very much question your motives. Just keep in mind, its the Irish-Americans who have been investing in Ireland and traveling there, and they can always pull out that investment and vacation elsewhere. I think it would be wise if you guys would refrain from IRA postings altogether, so that it would help keep the IRA supporters from posting.
I want you to know, I do not mean this to be personal, I am just sick of the "troll" name calling, and one-sided postings. The IRA are terrorists, period. Constantly posting articles on them is not going to win any new converts, as you are well aware, the Irish can be very stubborn people. I am trying to be objective, and to avoid future fights. I am half Irish from my fathers side, and I am very proud of my heritage, but I do take offense to the way in which you post here, thats all.
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posted on
05/30/2006 3:16:05 PM PDT
by
Theoden
(Fidei Defensor)
To: Theoden
I am glad to see you are well informed on Irish matters, and a lot of what you say about this country is true.
However, and I didn't take any personal offence to what you wrote, I don't see why pro-IRA posters should be treated any differently from, we'll say, pro-AQ posters.
I don't post as often about the Loyalist terror groups as much because there is unanimous agreement about those scumbags, also the IRA are a far bigger threat to Irish democracy at this present time.
And I have every right to post threads as many IRA threads as I wish.
Again, no offence taken
I_T.
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posted on
05/30/2006 3:28:51 PM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
To: Irish_Thatcherite
How is 48% an "overwhelming majority"? John Kerry received 48% of the popular vote in the 2004 Presidential election--I wouldn't call that an "overwhelming majority."
To: Verginius Rufus
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posted on
05/31/2006 11:11:21 AM PDT
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~| IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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