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Moderate Republicans struggle to hold on
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/30/06 | Devlin Barrett - ap

Posted on 05/30/2006 12:02:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

As an aside, Saratoga Springs is a lovely community here in upstate New York. Then they voted in a Democrat mayor and she wants to build low-income housing in Saratoga Springs. You can hear what's going on if you can get Andrew Wilkow's radio program.


61 posted on 05/30/2006 3:43:06 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: Richard Kimball

And he succeeded wildly. That is exactly what we have in W and this administration. Corporate fascism.


62 posted on 05/30/2006 4:21:23 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: NormsRevenge

I had no idea tht "moderate" Republicans are endangered. It seems to me that 90 percent of the Republicans are quite "moderate" to me. If not "moderate," then fearful.


63 posted on 05/30/2006 6:08:21 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: NormsRevenge; Clemenza; Torie; Clintonfatigued; Kuksool; AuH2ORepublican; JohnnyZ
"Republicans in the mold of the late Gov. Nelson Rockefeller — socially liberal and fiscally conservative."

I read this story off the AP wire this morning, and when I got to this part, I simply stopped reading. Now I'm used to liberal media spin, but this claim is so beyond outrageous and an outright lie as to say a pile of $hit is Godiva chocolate. Rocky's spending habits as NY Governor were so legendary that he made some of the most freewheeling liberal Democrats look like tightwads. Anyone who could claim a politician who shamelessly spent a cool billion taxpayer dollars at the height of a recession (that in late '60s/early '70s dollars, mind you) on the ghastly monstrosity known as the Empire State Plaza project in Albany and be termed a "fiscal Conservative" ought to be hit in the head with a shovel until the white meat shows.

64 posted on 05/30/2006 6:28:40 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Soul Seeker; NormsRevenge; fieldmarshaldj

As bad as McCain is, his friend Rudy Giuliani would be FAR WORSE! A pro-illegal, pro-gay, anti-gun, scumbag who was "sainted" by the media for a few good speeches after 9/11.


65 posted on 05/30/2006 6:42:57 PM PDT by Clemenza (The CFR ate my bilderburgers! Time to call for a trilateral commission to investigate!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

That was just someone who was ignorant. Rocky was conservative on foreign policy issues though.


66 posted on 05/30/2006 6:51:40 PM PDT by Torie
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To: fieldmarshaldj

If 2006 becames the bloodbath that some posters here say it willl be, it would be interesting to take a body count of the casualities. Which faction would suffer more - Red Meat Conservative or RINOs?

Regardless of the casualty count, I may have to brace for another grandstanding speech by Ray LaHood and Mark Kirk on how the GOP can be the dominant party if Republicans followed their leads.


67 posted on 05/30/2006 6:53:56 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: LurkLongley

If you truly did wish to see every seat claimed by a conservative, as you say you do, you should be in total agreement with my sentiment in my statements.

Do I think it's going to happen to every moderate and liberal repblican? Of course not. Do I wish it would. You bet. Should we work towards it? Of course.

I think it's fine to call a spade a spade, and work to get them known for what they are so we can get rid of them and get true conservatives in.

No apologies here.


68 posted on 05/30/2006 8:23:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Owen

What's worse, a dem who's blatantly anti-gun control or a guy in your own party who chips away at your rights to own guns small pieces at a time?

At least with the democrat we won't have guys like you ripping on conservatives who criticize the mod/liberal republican because 'he's a republican and you can't attack the people in your own party'. Liberal republicans are not really republicans - the 'R' means 'liberal who just happened to be on the Republican ticket because the liberal in that race was even further to the left."

Don't friggin' kid yourself or try to yank me around. You know it's accurate in many of these instances. Too often they work against anything the repub's actually try to muster together as an agenda. They are democrats with 'R's behind their names.

that's just something the dems love to see. I know, I love it when they're too busy attacking themselves.


69 posted on 05/30/2006 8:33:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: metesky

Zell Miller
Sam Nunn
Reuben Askew
John Kennedy
Harry Truman
Henry Wallace
Woodrow Wilson


70 posted on 05/31/2006 4:08:31 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: x

Today, political issues are often framed in moralistic terms. Abortion, environment, war, death penalty, homeless, etc are being fought over by two parties whose base membership follow two very different moral/religious value systems. Once Democrats and Republicans agreed on values of right and wrong but differed on the practical implementation of those values. Today, they do not agree on what is right and what is wrong. One party's base adheres to the traditional Judeo-Christian ethos while the other party's base follows a new age Enviro-Humanism. Blue Blood Republicans and Southern Democrats have found themselves alienated by their parties because they do not see their issues in moral terms. They will have to choose a side or live in irrelevancy.


71 posted on 05/31/2006 4:33:00 AM PDT by bobjam
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To: NormsRevenge

Moderate Republican = Democrat


72 posted on 05/31/2006 4:35:07 AM PDT by Thom Pain (Supporting the Constitution is NOT right wing. It is centrist.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I wouldn't expect one.

This is a hotly debated topic, and what you say is true about calling a spade a spade. However, reasonable people can still disagree on things, look at the opinions on this site alone, and we are ALL conservatives here. I would suspect that your definition of a conservative and mine are fairly close, but our ideas on how to achieve our goals differ slightly.

I think that you are right and I hope that conservatives can start educating the sheeple and running as conservatives. The sad truth is that alot of the Rinos are such simply out of a misplaced sense of fear of the MSM and so called independent voters.


73 posted on 05/31/2006 6:45:40 AM PDT by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: NormsRevenge

unfortunately in some regions the only Republicans who can get elected are the RINOs.


74 posted on 05/31/2006 6:49:49 AM PDT by DM1
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