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Moderate Republicans struggle to hold on
AP on Yahoo ^ | 5/30/06 | Devlin Barrett - ap

Posted on 05/30/2006 12:02:52 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SARATOGA SPRINGS, N.Y. - Moderate Republicans are off and running in the summer horse racing town of Saratoga Springs and other upstate New York cities, struggling to save their jobs and a dying political breed.

In a party dominated by conservatives, the last of the Northeast GOP moderates face several daunting election-year trends, including a strong top of the Democratic ticket in statewide races and growing discontent with President Bush, the Iraq war and the Republican-controlled Congress.

New York has always preferred its Republicans in the mold of the late Gov. Nelson Rockefeller — socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

"We don't send right-wingers to Congress," said Republican Rep. Sherwood Boehlert (news, bio, voting record), whose retirement after 12 terms creates a competitive open seat in central New York.

Rockefeller's tenure as governor ended in 1973, his brief, Watergate-generated time as Gerald Ford's vice president in 1977, and while the notion of "Rockefeller Republicans" lived on, the number of GOP moderates has dwindled some 30 years later.

In states such as Connecticut, New Hampshire and Pennsylvania, moderate Republicans are trying to remain more relevant than other '70s icons like disco music and white suits. Eight Republicans in those states are facing tough races.

In New York, a half dozen House incumbents are fighting off Democratic attempts to fuse them to Bush, whose approval rating stands at just 22 percent in the state. They hope that the party can get past its internal feuding to settle on candidates for senator and governor, and avoid no-shows at the polls in the fall.

"Getting out the vote is going to be critical, and we anticipate turning the spigot on 100 percent because in these congressional races that's going to be key," said Bob Smith, the Republican chairman in Onondaga County.

Dominating the election ballot are two Democratic heavyweights — New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who is seeking a second term, and Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, the favorite in the governor's race. Three-term Republican Gov. George Pataki, his eyes on the White House, decided not to seek another term.

Polls show Clinton and Spitzer with large leads over their little-known Republican rivals in a state where registered Democrats outnumber Republicans by nearly 2-to-1. In addition to two Democratic senators, Democrats hold 20 House seats to nine for the GOP.

The state GOP worries that economic setbacks coupled with the statewide realities could give Republicans little incentive to vote on Nov. 7.

"I'm extremely pessimistic," said Todd Finzer, a 38-year-old employee at a Greece, N.Y., sign company in a region hard hit by the loss of manufacturing jobs. "I feel like we're walking on a razor, that's what it feels like. It's just a house of cards ready to go boom."

The father of five and self-described Christian conservative voted twice for Bush but doesn't support him now.

"Ever since I was young, I was conservative, and I'm sloooowly listing to the left," said Finzer, who said he's unsure who he'll vote for this year or if he'll even bother.

A prime target for both parties is Boehlert's open seat in New York's 24th Congressional District, which includes parts of the Finger Lakes and the cities of Utica and Rome. Among Republicans, state senator Raymond Meier leads the field, while Democrats have settled on Oneida County district attorney Michael Arcuri. The primary is Sept. 12.

Teacher Jonathan Parks of Cortland, N.Y., said he would vote for the candidate most like Boehlert.

"I thought he handled himself very well. I thought he voted not only his party but he voted his conscience," said Parks, a registered independent who usually votes Republican.

In the bedroom communities around the state capital of Albany, four-term Republican Rep. John Sweeney (news, bio, voting record) faces a tough challenge from lawyer Kirsten Gillibrand. The Democrat has tried to appeal to the older generation of Rockefeller Republicans.

"They don't agree with this administration at all. They don't agree with the lack of fiscal discipline. They don't agree with the right-wing agenda on social issues," Gillibrand said in her bid for the 20th Congressional District seat.

Sweeney recently enlisted the help of Republican Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona, the White House hopeful who brings star power but none of the baggage of Bush. At a fundraiser not far from Saratoga's famous racetrack, McCain warned of a tough election season and said the threat to Northeast moderates could drive a geographic wedge through U.S. politics.

"I believe the Republican Party should be a national party not a regional one," McCain said.

Democrats ridiculed Sweeney about a month ago when the 50-year-old father of three showed up at a college fraternity party at 1 a.m.

Dave Hill, a Democratic-leaning voter from Ballston Spa, said he thought the criticism was a cheap shot. Of greater concern, Hill said, is how much longer U.S. troops will be in Iraq.

"I'm not totally against the war personally, but at some point I'd like to see a plan of how to get out of there," Hill said.

The wild card in the Sweeney race is the congressman's health. He was hospitalized in February with life-threatening high blood pressure and inflammation of blood vessels in his brain. He has undergone further medical tests but now declines to discuss his health.

In the western part of the state, four-term Rep. Tom Reynolds, who also heads the national House Republicans' re-election effort, faces a repeat challenge from businessman Jack Davis. The 26th Congressional District, which includes suburban Buffalo and Rochester, has lost many manufacturing jobs.

Davis favors trade protectionist policies for U.S. industry. The argument about the economy may get more intense as auto parts maker Delphi Corp., the largest employer in Niagara County, tries to work its way out of bankruptcy.

Delphi has said it intends to keep open its plants in the county and in nearby Rochester. However, the largest Delphi union is preparing for a possible nationwide strike to defend jobs and wages.

Other incumbent Republicans drawing more heat from Democrats this year are Rep. Randy Kuhl, a first-term lawmaker who won 51 percent of the vote in his Southern Tier district that includes Elmira and Corning, and Rep. Sue Kelly (news, bio, voting record), whose Hudson Valley district north of New York City has changed demographically due to an influx of liberals from the city.

In his Syracuse-based district, nine-term Republican Rep. James Walsh (news, bio, voting record) also is under siege. GOP officials argue that voters will stick with the longtime moderate Republicans they know despite the national trend.

"I think everyone's getting a very clear message that this war is wearing thin, but I don't hear people telling me Jim Walsh is responsible for going to war," Smith said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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1 posted on 05/30/2006 12:02:56 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

As though the Republican Party won't be better off without that liberal snake, Sherwood Boehlert.


2 posted on 05/30/2006 12:04:56 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: NormsRevenge

Republicans in the mold of the late Gov. Nelson Rockefeller — socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

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A lot of them fellars running around today can't even get the fiscally conservative part right or close to it.


3 posted on 05/30/2006 12:05:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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"Moderate" Republicans who try to please everbody remind me of a line from some action movie I once saw: "I like you. I'm going to kill you last." That's pretty much the attitude the Democrats have toward them.


4 posted on 05/30/2006 12:07:31 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wouldn't we all be better off if the liberal Republicans lost, and the conservatives won?


6 posted on 05/30/2006 12:07:41 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: NormsRevenge

IOW in the face of a Republican majority, RINOs are finding they are finally expendable.

IOOW: We do not have to suffer fools gladly.


8 posted on 05/30/2006 12:10:44 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: NormsRevenge

LBJ once accused Goldwater of saying that we should just saw off the NE seaboard. It appears to be like the West coast, moving more left.


9 posted on 05/30/2006 12:11:52 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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There ought to be a Truth in Political Ad law


10 posted on 05/30/2006 12:12:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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Republicans in the mold of the late Gov. Nelson Rockefeller — socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

A lot of them fellars running around today can't even get the fiscally conservative part right or close to it.

Right. President George W. Bush for one.

11 posted on 05/30/2006 12:12:15 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (You better prepare, the war is coming to the USA VERY SOON!)
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To: NormsRevenge
New York has always preferred its Republicans in the mold of the late Gov. Nelson Rockefeller — socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

False. Nelson Rockefeller was a liberal. He only joined the Republican Party because he preferred wingtips to sandals.

Regards, Ivan

12 posted on 05/30/2006 12:13:07 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Wouldn't we all be better off if the liberal Republicans lost, and the conservatives won?

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I'd like to give it a try once. ;-)


13 posted on 05/30/2006 12:13:39 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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"socially liberal and fiscally conservative"

Since all these "social" issues cost us so much money - how can you be?


14 posted on 05/30/2006 12:14:17 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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Rockefeller wasn't fiscally conservative either. Rockefeller Republicans believe in tilting the table to big business and running the country as a series of cartels.


15 posted on 05/30/2006 12:14:34 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (I like to make everyone's day a little more surreal)
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To: Brilliant
Wouldn't we all be better off if the liberal Republicans lost, and the conservatives won?

Conservatives won't win...Dems will.

16 posted on 05/30/2006 12:15:48 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The father of five and self-described Christian conservative voted twice for Bush but doesn't support him now. "Ever since I was young, I was conservative, and I'm sloooowly listing to the left," said Finzer, who said he's unsure who he'll vote for this year or if he'll even bother.

Liar.

Sweeney recently enlisted the help of Republican Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona, the White House hopeful who brings star power but none of the baggage of Bush. At a fundraiser not far from Saratoga's famous racetrack, McCain warned of a tough election season and said the threat to Northeast moderates could drive a geographic wedge through U.S. politics. "I believe the Republican Party should be a national party not a regional one," McCain said.

McCain's shot at conservatives. I know some people don't want to admit there is a war for control of the future of the party AND America still and that they can't straddle a fence anymore between RINO's and conservatives, but their numbers are dwindling if I guage the fall in support for McCain vs the last time such a poll was run on this board.

McCain has made it known he aims to destroy conservatives. If you are a conservative, and this IS a conservative board, the choice should be clear.

I am a conservative and consider McCain my avowed enemy, and anyone that sides with my enemy becomes my defacto enemy.

17 posted on 05/30/2006 12:17:02 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Deport the United States Senate)
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""Ever since I was young, I was conservative, and I'm sloooowly listing to the left," said Finzer, who said he's unsure who he'll vote for this year or if he'll even bother."

Message to all you squishy moderate GOPers... you can kiss true conservative voters like Finzer goodbye when you water-down conservatism by "moderating". New Yorkers are taxed way too much yet they keep electing their leftist libs. Go figure....I hail from NY but glad I am gone from there.


18 posted on 05/30/2006 12:17:22 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: NormsRevenge

These "Rockefeller Republicans" have not realized that the nation changed. The blue-blood political ideology was forged in the era of the New Deal when the nation was highly unionized, government was seen as the solution, and Democrats could actually be trusted with the defense of this country. All that has changed, and the "Rockefeller Republican" ideology, which successfully held the party together through the FDR years, must now be retired.

This is similar to the 1880's when the "Old Guard" Radical Republicans were pushed out by the industrialists.


19 posted on 05/30/2006 12:18:02 PM PDT by bobjam
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"Ever since I was young, I was conservative, and I'm sloooowly listing to the left," said Finzer, who said he's unsure who he'll vote for this year or if he'll even bother.

Yeah, I also served 30 years in the military and will vote for liberals too. These types of stories are is so full of feces that any newsmedia who runs it should be sued for libel.

20 posted on 05/30/2006 12:19:59 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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