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You Can't Stay on the Fence About Immigration
Human Events ^ | 5-29-06 | Donald Lambro

Posted on 05/28/2006 7:16:03 PM PDT by JustPiper

YOU CAN'T STAY ON THE FENCE ABOUT IMMIGRATION

The bitter battle over the immigration bill has become a legislative minefield in this election year, though it's still unclear whether November will see any heavy political fallout as a result.

To put it mildly, this issue is a thorny wilderness, festering intra-party divisions and brewing voter backlashes. It could inflict additional wounds on George W. Bush's battle-scarred presidency, shrink the GOP's congressional Republican majority and, possibly, hurt some vulnerable Democrats.

Let's slice up some of these pitfalls.

Stand Up For America !

"We have room for but one flag, the American flag...
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...
And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."


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KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; namericanunion
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To: Streaky

I printed out the Pence stuff and he is becoming a bigger problem everyday!

I hear Hastie is 'delaying' the bill


He has NO choice for the Caucus warned him they would not go to conferee and he said he'd abide but now he's shamming that he must 'look' into this further...blech blah don't believe none of them but our Caucus!!!


1,281 posted on 06/16/2006 1:19:55 PM PDT by JustPiper ("I have one voice, one vote to make a difference.")
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To: Larousse2; All

Thank you to you and all my allies/friends here for keeping us alive!


1,282 posted on 06/16/2006 1:20:42 PM PDT by JustPiper ("I have one voice, one vote to make a difference.")
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To: Smartass; nicmarlo

Amazing work nic has done!

My time is so limited {library} that I just try to keep up with our thread and my investigation into learning all I can about Bilderberg group...


Nic can you do your magic on it?! Help?! Noory is covering it extensively as are Jones and a few other's...the library has ONE book available on it, 20 years old!

It is crucial and ties into what SA has posted here!

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/160606Bilderberg2.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/150606clintonattend.htm


1,283 posted on 06/16/2006 1:25:09 PM PDT by JustPiper ("I have one voice, one vote to make a difference.")
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To: Smartass

Oh da smiley, I've got a lousy a5 min left
~waaaaaaaaa sniff


1,284 posted on 06/16/2006 1:26:09 PM PDT by JustPiper ("I have one voice, one vote to make a difference.")
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To: Larousse2

I've always been a Yahoooooooooo gal ;)


1,285 posted on 06/16/2006 1:27:05 PM PDT by JustPiper ("I have one voice, one vote to make a difference.")
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To: nicmarlo

simpatico my friend
~Hugs and missing you


1,286 posted on 06/16/2006 1:27:42 PM PDT by JustPiper ("I have one voice, one vote to make a difference.")
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To: MamaDearest

Excellent job M'Dear!!!

Must have more time to peruse this list!


1,287 posted on 06/16/2006 1:29:45 PM PDT by JustPiper ("I have one voice, one vote to make a difference.")
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To: Kimberly GG

Stellar work Kim!!!


1,288 posted on 06/16/2006 1:30:54 PM PDT by JustPiper ("I have one voice, one vote to make a difference.")
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To: Kimberly GG; EternalVigilance

It is disgusting isn't it Kim?

EV has worked on this issue lonnnnng and hopefully is inured to these Banshee's


1,289 posted on 06/16/2006 1:33:09 PM PDT by JustPiper ("I have one voice, one vote to make a difference.")
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To: MamaDearest; nicmarlo; Smartass; All


1,290 posted on 06/16/2006 1:37:16 PM PDT by JustPiper ("I have one voice, one vote to make a difference.")
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Check out all the attendee's closely and where they come from and how elitest the $$$ are represented, THIS IS New World Order Complete!!!

1,291 posted on 06/16/2006 1:39:08 PM PDT by JustPiper ("I have one voice, one vote to make a difference.")
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To: JustPiper

Amen. Thanks.


1,292 posted on 06/16/2006 2:15:38 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: JustPiper

You're welcome JP! Like the old 60's song, gonna keep on "searchin...."


1,293 posted on 06/16/2006 4:16:37 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: JustPiper
Immigration is key in Utah Jacob-Cannon race

Snip: Jacob is an outspoken advocate of the version of immigration legislation passed by the House, which focuses on increased border security and penalties for employers who hire illegal immigrants.

Cannon, on the other hand, has long taken a stand that would combine a crackdown on illegal immigration with a “guest worker” program to allow the hiring of immigrants for mainly low-wage jobs that employers contend are hard to fill. This is a position shared by President Bush and many business-oriented conservatives — and is embodied in the Senate-passed version of the legislation.

Canadian laws on illegal immigration

Snip: I look at this incidence differently. Canada is a sovereign nation looking after the security of its citizens. They will follow leads and investigate any potential harm. They will even “spy” on Canadian citizens. They cooperate with America in securing the border and help us in the overall fight against terrorism.

Asylum-amnesty not the answer in the UK

Snip: Our government failed in their duty to deport or track them in the first place, now embarrassed by the publicity and the continuing sagas of their government departments dealing with immigration and asylum they are looking for a solution that will resolve their problems quickly. The quick fix option, it will not work, the amnesty will not resolve the long term issues, and has been tried before to no avail.

Amnesty under the Senate's immigration plan is worse than you think

Snip: In addition to the 7.4 million expected to receive amnesty legitimately, we estimate that, as in 1986, there will be one fraudulent amnesty awarded for every three legitimate ones. This means that nearly 2.6 million additional illegals will legalize fraudulently, for a total of 9.9 million.

Anti-illegal immigration rally set for Cut and Shoot, Texas on Saturday

Snip: The group has held rallies statewide, including in Houston, Austin, Lufkin and Dallas, said President Curtis Collier. Collier said its members are not racists or vigilantes but patriots who want to protect the U.S. from terrorists, drugs and other illegal activities. He said the group supports legal immigration but opposes amnesty.

1,294 posted on 06/16/2006 4:44:09 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: JustPiper
It's illegal immigration stupid!

Snip: Iraq? Gay marriage? Flag-burning? Not a chance. It’s immigration.

Anyone who doesn’t believe the entire country is riled up over illegal immigration should consider what’s been happening in Hazleton the past couple of days. Mayor Louis Barletta, upset over recent crimes by illegal immigrants, announced a bold initiative Monday. First, he proposed making English Hazleton’s “official language,” a local take on a concept that has been floated on the national level.

Second, and even more significant, he proposed levying $1,000 fines on businesses that hire illegal aliens and on landlords who fail to get documentation from prospective tenants. Putting aside possible constitutional questions about the legislation that city council will soon consider, Barletta’s proposal has been enlightening, simply because of the reaction it has received.

The mayor – who has been an activist on several fronts – says he has never seen such a huge response to any previous comment or proposal. The Standard-Speaker has seen a similar reaction. E-mails and letters to the editor began coming in as soon as Monday’s paper hit the streets. The sentiment has been all but unanimously in favor of the mayor’s stance.

1,295 posted on 06/16/2006 4:49:34 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: JustPiper; WestCoastGal
Alien sweep nets 150 in Boston area including MS-13 member

Snip: A federal immigration crackdown has netted 150 illegal aliens across New England, including a Salvadoran gangbanger who was convicted of viciously attacking a Chelsea boy and then hiding from deportation in plain sight - at a Budget Rent-A-Car.

Security at Disney World tighter than at US border

Snip: And then there is Disney World. Try jumping the fence into the Magic Kingdom and demanding to ride the rides "because I am here and we are all human beings." Try overstaying your day pass on Uncle Walt's Main Street USA - whatever your ethnicity or national origin. Enforcement works there, too. I could go on.

Osceola schools candidate blasts migrants

Snip: The candidate, expressing his opinion in a letter that he submitted to a weekly publication, said that those immigrants "constitute an attack force from the Third World against America." But the words that some Hispanic activists see as offensive -- and embarrassing -- didn't come from a U.S.-born candidate complaining about an alien invasion.

They came from a candidate born in Venezuela who says he is courting the vote of Hispanics. Eduardo Montalvo, a real-estate sales agent who is a first-time candidate for the Osceola School Board, said he meant the letter as a declaration in favor of legal immigrants....

Ford considers new plant in Mexico and plant closures in USA

Snip: The U.S. automaker is also proposing to invest $9.2 billion in the coming years, which could create some 150,000 jobs. While Ford acknowledged that documents first cited in a Detroit-area newspaper were apparently genuine, officials at the company refused to comment on the alleged investment in Mexico.

Why don't they go back to Mexico?

Snip: It comes as no surprise to me that Irma Covarrubias, June 8, writes that it “doesn’t matter” whether fake ID cards and social security cards (read “fake” as “stolen”) are used to gain employment for illegal immigrants. If one has no problem breaking our immigration laws, they have no problem breaking our other laws.

Obviously Irma has no concept of the damage done to innocent American citizens due to identity theft, or she just doesn’t care. A good example of that is the young wife and mother in Dublin, CA. Her social security number is being used by over 200 “paycheck” earners who bought the number at a Texas swap meet. There is a warrant for her arrest on a felony charge in Texas, a state she has never been in, she cannot obtain a job because of the felony, she has been billed for back taxes on earnings she has never received and she is spending hours each day trying to get her life back in order.

1,296 posted on 06/16/2006 5:20:00 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: MamaDearest; JustPiper; Smartass; nicmarlo

I saw on TV recently that ICE has finally been doing roundups. It's about time!


1,297 posted on 06/16/2006 5:50:39 PM PDT by Larousse2 (Like June Carter Cash, "I'm just tryin' to matter.")
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To: Larousse2; Czar; nicmarlo; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; devolve; OXENinFLA; bitt; ...

Roundups Ratcheted

Undocumented immigrants arrested en masse in new Homeland Security program

By R.M. Arrieta

Agents in Arizona wait for transportation for two undocumented immigrants.

Federal agents are fanning out across the nation apprehending undocumented immigrants with a green light from the Bush administration.

Eight months ago Operation Endgame was placed on the fast track under the auspices of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, the newly formed investigative arm of the Department of Homeland Security (see “Detention Blues,” p. 20) and one of three new bureaus of the former Immigration and Naturalization Service. With a bigger budget and more agents, the mandate is to catch some of the estimated 400,000 undocumented immigrants who have final removal orders and deport them.

“Right now we have more than 20,000 people in ICE custody nationwide,” says ICE spokeswoman Virginia Kice.

Since March, civil rights groups nationwide have reported a marked increase in the questioning, detention and deportation of undocumented immigrants.

During a week in April, nearly 170 people were arrested on the East Coast following three flights from Los Angeles to Newark Liberty and JFK International airports.

In March, federal authorities picked up almost two dozen undocumented workers at a construction site in Dade City, Florida. Also in March, a weeklong crackdown in New England picked up 60 undocumented immigrants.

In Houston, Texas, rumors of mass immigration raids created such panic in Latino neighborhoods that “they stopped sending their kids to school, stopped attending church, stopped going to work, there was a dramatic shift in the traffic,” says Arnaldo Garcia, of the National Network for Immigrant and Refugee Rights in Oakland, California.

According to civil rights organizations, agents have been employing a new tactic that targets one person to gain access to an apartment building or home, and then ends with the detaining and deporting of other undocumented immigrants. This happened May 6 in San Francisco when agents entered the residential Sunrise Hotel to detain a resident who allegedly violated immigration orders.

Agents caught their target, but pressed other residents for their legal status as they walked through the lobby on their way to work. Agents swept up nine undocumented workers; all but one signed voluntary deportation notices.

The raid drew the ire of city officials. San Francisco Supervisors Tom Ammiano and Chris Daly, in whose district the raid took place, introduced a resolution urging the FBI and ICE to stop targeting hardworking immigrants. It passed overwhelmingly. If immigrants are detained, the resolution requires “that access to legal counsel be provided, that they get access to a hearing and that their case be reviewed by a judge.”

“These kinds of raids should not be happening. It is unacceptable that these vulnerable families would have to deal with something like this,” Daly says.

ICE Deputy Field Office Director Tim Aiken disagrees. “This notion that we can’t question people about their immigration status because they weren’t the ones we’re looking for is complete nonsense. We have a right to do our job and we are enforcing the laws that Congress gave us.”

A similar situation occurred at a private residence in San Diego County. At 6 a.m. on March 18, agents pounded on Jose Luis Aguilar’s door. When he opened the door, agents forced their way in, according to a report filed by the American Friends Service Committee (AFSC), a national civil rights organization. The agents apparently were trying to capture an undocumented immigrant with a criminal record named Juan Rios. The current resident, Aguilar, knew nothing about Rios.

Even though Aguilar was not the target of their investigation and had no criminal record, agents questioned him and his family about their immigration status. They also questioned his neighbors. In all, a dozen undocumented immigrants were rounded up although authorities never found Rios.

“I never thought this would happen,” says Aguilar. “Yes, it can happen on the streets, you are vulnerable—but in your own house—no, not without having done anything.”

Says his attorney Susan Von Posern, “They can stop you in the park, on the bus, they can knock on your door.”

Since March, Border Patrol agents in San Diego have been searching for undocumented immigrants on public transportation in a program called Operation TransCheck.

“So far we’ve interviewed approximately 7,290 people and arrested 218,” says Tomas Jimenez, spokesman for Customs and Border Protection, United States Border Patrol.

Although federal agents deny these are “raids” or “sweeps,” community members continue to perceive them as such.

These roundups and detentions are devastating to families—who see their loved ones shackled and taken away in vans. “They [federal agents] operate on the fringes of the Constitution,” says Christian Ramirez, director of the AFSC in San Diego.

When asked about tactics and methods used by the agents to get citizenship status information, including allegations of racial profiling, Aiken stated: “We have the right based on behavioral cues and other circumstances that suggest to us there may be a violation, to pursue it. We are doing our job.”

Of increasing concern is the questioning of students riding the trolley. One shocking incident includes the questioning of a 16-year-old girl who was on her way to a charter high school in Chula Vista in San Diego County. According to the AFSC, a border patrol agent approached the girl and questioned her immigration status. “She provided her school ID and the agent did not accept the school ID as a valid form of identification,” says Ramirez. “Then they proceeded to ask for more information about where she lived and where she went to school.”

Added Ramirez, “Her complaint was that she felt threatened because the Border Patrol agent told her that he would travel to her school to verify that she was legally in the United States. As a result of this the young lady has failed to show up to school. She is very afraid.

“What documents do you need to provide to the Border Patrol to prove that you are legal in the United States? That’s a debate that needs to happen, unfortunately it’s taking place in the streets and not in the Supreme Court.”

 

 


It's cooled off...

 

1,298 posted on 06/16/2006 6:45:40 PM PDT by Smartass (Believe in God - And forgive us our trash baskets as we forgive those who put trash in our baskets)
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To: Smartass

If this is true, and not over-hyped, I hope it continues.


1,299 posted on 06/16/2006 7:59:00 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn
I'm unconvinced. Yeah they got a few, but when you
measure the drop in the bucket, compared to the Tsunami
of over 30 million, I remain cynical.

 

1,300 posted on 06/16/2006 8:19:37 PM PDT by Smartass (Believe in God - And forgive us our trash baskets as we forgive those who put trash in our baskets)
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