[CedarDave]

When I was in San Fran I was amazed how forward the women were.

And so are the men -- I was propositioned by a transvestite one night there when I was in the military, and that was in the 60's!! The other story was that I went into a bar in uniform one time and the bar tender was nice enough to tell me it was a gay bar and I hightailed it outa there.

[warsaw44]

wow - you are lucky the barkeep was a good guy!
That reminds me of this hammer head friend of mine back in college. We were both freshman and were as green as could be. Anyway, he tells me he has found a bar that didn't card him the two times he has been in. So, one evening I decide to go with him and check out the place. I couldn't believe I was going to be able to get into a bar! We get there and sure enough - its a gay bar. I figured that out in about 1 minute and brought it to his attention. He never had a clue. He claimed to have seen women in the place on one of his visits but I can only imagine what he saw.