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To: Carl/NewsMax
And while that provocation may not have been enough to justify the wanton murder of innocent Iraqis, it's far from clear at this point that all of those killed were indeed innocent. Or that any innocents who did die were killed in cold blood.

If the reports are true that many died of head shots to the back of the head while in a neeling position and they came from weapons used by the marines, it doesnt look good. What provocation can there be that would justify executing unarmed women and children?

16 posted on 05/27/2006 10:23:36 AM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dave S
If the reports are true that many died of head shots to the back of the head while in a neeling position and they came from weapons used by the marines, it doesnt look good.

WHERE did you get this from?

18 posted on 05/27/2006 10:26:20 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: Dave S
"What provocation can there be that would justify executing unarmed women and children?

You can sit at your computer and ponder such questions. But don't pass judgement on those who are engaged is something about which you cannot know. Perhaps this quote from a famous American will bring you some solace.

“It is well that war is so terrible, or we should get too fond of it.”

20 posted on 05/27/2006 10:30:30 AM PDT by trek
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To: Dave S
If the reports are true that many died of head shots to the back of the head while in a neeling position and they came from weapons used by the marines, it doesnt look good. What provocation can there be that would justify executing unarmed women and children?

Even if those reports ARE true - we have no idea who fired the shots (Marines? Insurgents?) and whether the bodies were arranged by others in certain positions.

We don't know if any of the Iraqis had guns or pointed them at Marines.

We don't know if anyone made any false moves. (Remember the NBC video that purportedly showed a Marine executing an innocent sleeping Iraqi in cold blood?)

We don't know if the Marines had reason to believe that the people in those houses could have been suicide bombers themselves - which might explain why women and children were also among the victims.

There's a whole series of questions that need to be asked - and answered with proof beyond a reasonable doubt - before this story should be covered the way the MSM is currently covering it.

It's also worth remembering that it's not up to us - or the Marines - to prove their innocense. It's up to their accusers and military prosecutors. And if the witnesses against them all come from a hotbed of terrorism, I would think that hurts their case considerably.

Viewed from the perspective of who has to prove what here, there's very little evidence currently in the public domain that ties the Marines directly to the commission of this atrocity.

So far the media's case rests on the premise: How else could this have happened?

29 posted on 05/27/2006 10:50:13 AM PDT by Carl/NewsMax
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To: Dave S

How about waiting until the investigation is done and the Marines have been given a fair trial (if one is needed).

I'll come down on the side of my brothers each and every time before I'll come down on the side of jihadists and those people who assisted directly or indirectly in the murder of 3000 of our citizens and other nationals.

Semper Fi Devil Dogs.


61 posted on 05/27/2006 11:40:38 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: Dave S
If the reports are true that many died of head shots to the back of the head while in a neeling position and they came from weapons used by the marines, it doesnt look good.

On the other hand, how about if they died while being held as human shields in front of Al Quaida terrorists?

62 posted on 05/27/2006 11:41:42 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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