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Scientists Predict How To Detect A Fourth Dimension Of Space
Science Daily ^ | May 25, 2006 | Unattributed (Duke University)

Posted on 05/25/2006 1:35:30 PM PDT by Ben Mugged

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To: MHGinTN
Wow, would I ever love to discuss this with Lisa ... she's prettier than StephenH don'tchaknow.

Oddly enough, I have never felt threatened by beautiful women that are more intelligent than I am. Maybe it's because I don't listen to any of them. It's that whole visual male thing.

21 posted on 05/25/2006 1:59:11 PM PDT by EricT. (CA conservatives only serve to inflate the number of electoral votes won by the Dems.)
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To: Ben Mugged

My favorite fifth dimension was Marilyn McCoo.


22 posted on 05/25/2006 2:00:19 PM PDT by AConnecticutYankee
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To: Huck
The loaf of bread metaphor doesn't cut it (har har).

What's the loaf of bread metaphor?

23 posted on 05/25/2006 2:02:01 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Buy Danish!)
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To: Huck
No matter how they try, no one can explain 4 dimensions in a way that I can understand.

Hmmmm how dimensions are there in a line? one. Now imagine that line is a phone line. From distance it still appears one dimensional but if you get close, you see that it's actually three dimensional with the 2nd and 3rd dimensions wrapped around it. That's an analogy to the idea that the 4th and 5th spatial dimensions are wrapped tightly within and around 3rd dimensional space, but you have to get down to the sub-quantum level to "see" it.

24 posted on 05/25/2006 2:02:04 PM PDT by PackerBronco
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To: avacado

The way I see it, in our current paradigm you can remain stationary in the x, y, or z axes while moving on any of the others. The trick in describing the fourth dimension is to remain stationary in the x, y, AND z axes while moving in yet another axis. To me, that means that the axes themselves are moving through yet another space, so in reality, by positing anything outside of the three dimensions with which we're familiar, we're necessarily positing yet another three within which our space moves, and so on, without touching time.


25 posted on 05/25/2006 2:02:10 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living insult to Islam since 1959.)
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To: Huck

26 posted on 05/25/2006 2:04:43 PM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush.)
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To: DoughtyOne
OK...let me run this past you. Fourth dimension is like looking at a cube...you can see the three sides and the fourth side...unseen...is like the fourth dimension? I was not a math wiz. I am sensitive so don't laugh.
27 posted on 05/25/2006 2:05:24 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Buy Danish!)
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To: isaiah55version11_0
VIZZINI :Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I'm not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool; you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.


MAN IN BLACK:You've made your decision then?


VIZZINI : Not remotely. Because iocane comes from Australia, as everyone knows. And Australia is entirely peopled with criminals. And criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me. So I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you.


MAN IN BLACK:Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

28 posted on 05/25/2006 2:05:36 PM PDT by isaiah55version11_0 (For His Glory)
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To: RightWhale
"It won't work out because time is already an illusion in reality and a convenience in the mechanics formulas."

I've been reading up on a lot of this subject lately and it is proving to be very interesting. MY GF has been giving me some strange looks lately as I walk in the house with an armload of physics books. The thought that everything is happening all oat once without any regard to "time" is a head-snapper.
29 posted on 05/25/2006 2:08:32 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Paradox

WoW, brilliant and beautiful. Yes, sign me up. This is a huge potential breakthrough advancing the picture of the universe as we understand it.


30 posted on 05/25/2006 2:10:42 PM PDT by romanesq (.)
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To: taxed2death

This whole discussion is beneath me. Work out your theories then come back to me.


31 posted on 05/25/2006 2:10:49 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make The Call.....pitchforks and lanterns.!)
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To: Paradox; pissant; Toby06; TheBigB

I would hit that in five dimensions.


32 posted on 05/25/2006 2:11:45 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:D~)
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To: avacado

No matter how you slice it, you can't get more than THREE (3) spatial dimensions!!! You can use many "dimensions" in a vector to "represent" something in reality but that's all it is: just a representation and NOT reality.

When it comes to Big Bang, I am a non-believer.


33 posted on 05/25/2006 2:14:31 PM PDT by true_blue_texican (grateful texan! -- whoops! I'm sober tonight, what happened?)
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To: taxed2death

If you could 'stand outside of our spacetime' and look 'in', all of time would be occurring simultaneously. It's like saying all present occurs simultaneously.


34 posted on 05/25/2006 2:14:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: RightWhale

She has to be more than bright to conceptualize and put a sound theory to such an idea.

As for the creationists and evolution debate, it's not even worthy of her time.
Nor anyone's in my opinion. It's entirely about science vs. people who want to argue outside science.

I've never understood why people can't understand evolution as part of God's process since there are so many other things beyond even our understanding.
As if God were not capable of such a process.

Silly.

(Not an endorsement or question of finality on the evolution theory.)


35 posted on 05/25/2006 2:14:46 PM PDT by romanesq (.)
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To: Ben Mugged

bump


36 posted on 05/25/2006 2:14:48 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: DoughtyOne

Yes, but if you could actually do that you would have to watch out for the Langoliers.


37 posted on 05/25/2006 2:17:49 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: SlowBoat407
The way I see it, in our current paradigm you can remain stationary in the x, y, or z axes while moving on any of the others.

By "moving" you just introduced time. We exist in 3 dimensions without time regardless of movement. Movement introduces time. x/t = v

The trick in describing the fourth dimension is to remain stationary in the x, y, AND z axes while moving in yet another axis.

Again, there should be no need to move through anything with 4 dimensions of space. Movement is time. We should, somehow, exist in 4 dimensions of space without the consideration of moving or time.

To me, that means that the axes themselves are moving through yet another space

4 dimensions of space should not require any type of movement. Movement is time.

I personally cannot imagine 4 dimensions of space.

38 posted on 05/25/2006 2:18:26 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Ben Mugged

These clowns are bush league compared to Buckaroo Banzai.


39 posted on 05/25/2006 2:18:39 PM PDT by rock_lobsta
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To: Ben Mugged

Thinking about this makes my brane hurt.


40 posted on 05/25/2006 2:22:26 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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