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More Women Not Waiting For Mr. Right
CBS2CHICAGO ^ | 18 May 2006 | CBS2CHICAGO

Posted on 05/21/2006 11:55:33 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

(CBS) CHICAGO It's a trend that some fear may have long-term consequences. More unmarried women over the age of 25 are not waiting for Mr. Right.

As CBS 2's Alita Guillen reports, these ladies are having children on their own.

The fantasy father at their fingertips is a sperm donor with all the right stuff.

Katherine Gehl and April Lashbrook had successful careers and dated, but they didn't have husbands. They heard their biological clocks ticking loudly.

"It was like a time bomb," April said.

"I need to go and have a baby and be a mother, and so I did," Katherine said.

Women used to depend on chemistry in the bedroom to conceive a child. Now, more and more women are turning to the lab and depending more on science than sex.

This twist on the mating game begins at a sperm bank, where donors can earn up to $900 a month.

"These guys are college students. This is a form of income," said California Cryobank Medical Director Dr. Cappy Rothman.

The sperm undergoes testing for diseases, genetic defects and blood type.

"Donor sperm, in many ways, is guaranteed good sperm," said Dr. Lauren Streicher, a gynecologist at Northwestern Memorial Hospital.

When April chose her donor in 2003, she got a long profile including a medical history and even written answers to questions.

"I knew immediately that was who I was going to choose," she said.

Now, many banks offer much more, including childhood photos and the donors' voices on CD.

Once chosen, the sperm remains frozen and stored until needed. Then it can be shipped anywhere.

While women can inseminate themselves at home, both April and Katherine used fertility specialists.

Many of these donors have already proven their fertility.

"It's an excellent way of getting pregnant because you usually have men who have confirmed pregnancy," said Dr. Brian Kaplan, a fertility specialist with Fertility Clinics of Illinois.

"We are creating a real potential disaster here," said Elizabeth Marquardt with New York City's Affiliate Scholar Institute for American Values.

Some critics are concerned that as this practice becomes more popular, and that with an unknown number of children from the same donor, that two of them might unknowingly hook up.

"In the future, we will have to have a DNA test with anyone we want to have sex with just to make sure we're not related to them," Marquardt said.

Many sperm banks say they try to limit pregnancies based on geographic area to reduce that risk. However, in a transient society, it may be hard to do.

Critics also worry how this might change the definition of family.

"As a society, we're saying fathers don't matter," Marquardt said.

Thirteen-year-old Liz Herzog, whose father is donor number 1002 from Virginia's Fairfax Cryobank, says she's happy with her life.

"I can't even say that once in a while I wish I had a father, because I don't," she said.

Through the Donor Sibling Registry Web site, she has discovered at least 10 half-sibling and has met seven, including Callie from Pennsylvania.

Liz's mother, Diana, thinks these newly forged relationships will last a lifetime.

"You can only hope that your child will be well-adjusted and happy enough when they grow up that they won't feel that they're missing too much," Diana Herzog said.

April's daughter, Julia, is now almost three years old.

"When she was born, it was just amazing," April said.

Katherine's daughter, Alexandra, is eight months old.

Both are enjoying every moment motherhood has to offer.

"It is so much greater than I had any idea," Katherine said.

April, Julia's mom, knows of six half-siblings so far.

All of the single moms we spoke with think the possibility of meeting and dating a half-sibling is very remote because they are very open or plan to be open with their children.

It is interesting to note that back when sperm banks first opened in the 1970s, it was all married couples seeking sperm donors. Doctors say those couples were more likely to keep it secret.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: birthrate; bravenewworld; children; freeriders; genderwars; harpyreproduction; ivf; marriage; moralabsolutes; paternity; spermbank; swirlingdowndrain
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To: rintense

Both the women you mention - the one sleeping around and the one buying a kid - are part of the problem. But the one buying the sperm for her kid is worse, because she shouldn't be a mother. Period.

Let her get a dog. That's something she can't screw up much, and if she does, it doesn't matter.


341 posted on 05/21/2006 6:20:07 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: marajade
I see nothing wrong with choosing to raise a child yourself out of wedlock.

It is one thing to raise a child out of wedlock if and when finds themselves widowed. It is quite another to deliberately put yourself in a circumstance where you outsource the raising of your child to a minimum worker with a high school education through promiscuity or conscious choice.
342 posted on 05/21/2006 6:21:34 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: durasell
You know what? I want a child. I'm single. I'm hereby putting an ad on FR.com to all the single, good looking, athletic guys out there. If you are looking to pass on your genetics, contact me. Love not be necessary, only a nice face, body and smile- and good stamina. Viagra can be provided if necessary.

Matrimony: optional. If so, you must be able to mud drywall, change oil, cool good BBQ, and change poopy diapers.

343 posted on 05/21/2006 6:23:33 PM PDT by rintense
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To: marajade

You say you grew up without a daddy. Well, it shows!

Too bad you didn't have one, then you wouldn't be playing this game of denial. Contrary to your statements, it has hurt you badly, as is evident in your posting. You so badly want your statement to be true, but it's not, and your position is an insult to daddies everywhere.

No mother can raise a child as well as a good father and mother can.


344 posted on 05/21/2006 6:24:40 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: durasell
All these people speaking out against selfishness are Buddhist monks and nuns right?

I have never met anyone wasn't selfish.
345 posted on 05/21/2006 6:24:44 PM PDT by after dark
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To: rintense; durasell

I say go it for lady and good luck to you!

I mean just how long are women supposed to wait for a man who can be a good husband and father just they can have children?


346 posted on 05/21/2006 6:25:19 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: after dark

I have never met anyone wasn't selfish




Seriously -- I have. I have met completely unselfish people. And do you know what? They were deeply flawed in other ways.


347 posted on 05/21/2006 6:26:35 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: David Allen

But who are you to judge whether she would be a good mother? Do you not agree that there are women who are married who should not have had children? Do you think that b!tch in Texas who murdered her children was a better mother because she was married?


348 posted on 05/21/2006 6:26:45 PM PDT by rintense
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To: David Allen

"You say you grew up without a daddy. Well, it shows!"

No, I said I grew up with a daddy in home. He was there, he just wasn't a positive role model as a father.

We all have our own personal perspectives to draw from.


349 posted on 05/21/2006 6:26:47 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: rintense
But they still allow single people to adopt.

Proving?

Please tell me, how many of us have lived in the 'best case scenario'?

And how does that excuse a woman from removing a child from the pool of possibilities at the 'best case scenario'?

You make it sound as if you do not live in the best case scenario...

Care to support that gratuitous assertion?

If so, you've just condemned half of freerepublic.

If so, why should that be of concern? I am either correct, or I am not. Who or how many agree is totally irrelevant.

Tell me, would you have more sympathy for a single woman who sleeps around, gets pregnant, and keeps her child (whether or not she can financially support it) than a single woman who makes a conscious decision to have a child she knows she can support and love?

Yes.

350 posted on 05/21/2006 6:28:10 PM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: rintense

Sign me up -- it sounds like just the opportunity for someone like me who is cursed with tragically small genitalia...


351 posted on 05/21/2006 6:28:34 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Gabz
I would nominate this young woman as mother of the year in a heartbeat.

So would I.

I would nominate him as father of the year for BOTH of those girls.

So would I. But they are young enough to attach to him as their father and see him that way.

We do not live in a cookie cutter world

Clearly.

and there are no absolutes.

And if that's true, then what's right is whatever you decide is right. Nothing good will come from situational ethics. It's been tried; it doesn't work. Once you go down this path, you take the authority out of what's truly right and what's truly wrong. The only possible end result is social and moral anarchy.
352 posted on 05/21/2006 6:28:42 PM PDT by JamesP81
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To: rintense; David Allen

And if you ask me her husband wasn't a positive role model as a father.

Why? He knew she was ill but constantly wanted her off her meds. She felt she shouldn't of had kids, but he kept insisting that she did.

And her husband was supposedly a good christian man. Okie dokie.

You can try and seek an ideal in everything, but sometimes it just ain't possible.


353 posted on 05/21/2006 6:30:20 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: papertyger
Tell me, would you have more sympathy for a single woman who sleeps around, gets pregnant, and keeps her child (whether or not she can financially support it) than a single woman who makes a conscious decision to have a child she knows she can support and love?

Yes.

That tells me all I need to know.

354 posted on 05/21/2006 6:33:09 PM PDT by rintense
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To: rintense

You're quite welcome.

I just try to call them as I see them.

This thread is really starting to seriously bother me.


355 posted on 05/21/2006 6:33:44 PM PDT by Gabz (Proud to be a WalMartian --- beep)
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To: marajade
There are many posters in this thread that through no mistake of her own, wouldn't even consider marriage material. How terribly sad of a tale of society of today is that.

There are too many bad apples spoiling the bunch, unfortunately. I'm not sure what you can do about it.

I generally won't date anyone who already has children, although I did make an exception once. The reason I did is because the little girl she had was a year old. She was young enough that if the relationship worked out and I married this lady that this little girl would see me as her father just as surely as if she were my biological child. The relationship didn't work out but that's how I saw it.
356 posted on 05/21/2006 6:35:43 PM PDT by JamesP81
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To: rintense

Who am I to judge? I'm part of society, that's who.

Let's ask the question as it should be asked: Who are God, nature, and civilization to judge? That's what we're talking about.

There is a collective wisdom the world had before feminists in this country decided they knew better than all that. If a woman is too busy to get a baby the way nature intended, too busy to raise one properly, too busy to have a father in the baby's life - then she needs to get her tubes tied and never produce a child.

We already have too many kids with no daddy running around in this country. It's the number one root cause of problems in America.


357 posted on 05/21/2006 6:36:05 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: papertyger
Can you think of any reason why a woman who can not manage to cooperate with another adult is sufficiently socialized to take sole responsibilty for socializing another person who is utterly dependent and totally powerless before her?

One thing my wife and I have learned through the years, and by observing our divorced, single, family members is marriage makes one answerable to another human being in ways that nothing else does. Dismissing the skills learned by that experience is a foolish as the deaf dismissing the qualitative advantage enjoyed by the hearing.

Worth repeating

358 posted on 05/21/2006 6:36:11 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: rintense
Amicably. Does that include love? Or is it just a business arrangement to you?

What do you know about love? How long have you been married to the same person? Have you been faithful to the same person for more than twenty years?

Answer those questions, then you can presume to scrutinize my statements.

You know, children are pretty smart and know when their parents don't love each other. Would you rather a child see that?

Do not conflate what you want with what children want.

Or have you never seen the reaction kids have to the notion of their parents "doing the nasty?"

359 posted on 05/21/2006 6:36:53 PM PDT by papertyger (Our Constitution isn't perfect, but it's better than what we have right now.)
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To: marajade
"I just seem to find myself on the opposite side of most of the posters here at FR. Why is that?"

There are just some areas on FR, particularly regarding some social concepts, that a sane person should avoid.

I, for one, agree with you. But this fight is hopeless.

360 posted on 05/21/2006 6:37:04 PM PDT by Nova
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