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New Clues to the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
LiveScience via Yahoo ^ | 5/19/06 | Robert Roy Britt

Posted on 05/19/2006 9:12:53 PM PDT by ZGuy

Weather experts have "hindcasted" the storm that sunk the Edmund Fitzgerald on Lake Superior during the November 1975.

Hurricane-force gusts and waves coming from an unexpected angle likely contributed to the disaster immortalized by Gordon Lightfoot in the song, "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald," researchers say.

All 29 crewmembers died.

"During the late afternoon and early evening of Nov. 10, conditions deteriorated rapidly with winds in excess of 69 mph, hurricane-force gusts [over 74 mph] and waves more than 25 feet high," said Thomas Hultquist, science and operations officer at the NOAA National Weather Service forecast office in Negaunee, Mich.

The freighter, thought like the Titanic to be invincible, was heading south. Waves were traveling west-to-east, the new analysis shows. This could have created a hazardous rolling motion. The ship sank about 15 miles from Whitefish Bay.

Lake Superior is the largest of the Great Lakes.

"While high winds on Lake Superior are not rare, it is unusual for the waves to get that high on the lake," said Schwab. "It's unlikely that Captain Ernest McSorley, the skipper of the Edmund Fitzgerald, had ever seen anything like that in his career."

The findings are detailed in the May issue of the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: edmundfitzgerald; gordonlightfoot; lakesuperior; shipwreck; soolocks
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

I don't know . . . I would think that the water on Lake Superior is extremely cold under normal circumstances at that time of year, so I'm not sure how much it would have affected one ship out of all the ones that were sailing that evening.


121 posted on 05/19/2006 10:55:59 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: SgtK

Welcome aboard, and thanks for serving!


122 posted on 05/19/2006 10:57:31 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Yes, I saw that particular edition on Discovery. I watched in awe and fear. I love the water, but I am deathly afraid of it too, having been caught in a riptide as an altogether too brave and foolhardy teenage girl.


123 posted on 05/19/2006 10:58:44 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Those are extremely interesting shows.


124 posted on 05/19/2006 10:59:28 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: onyx

Been there. The Whitefish Point Museum is a tear jerker. In the city of Sault St. Marie, there is a 'grounded' freighter for tourists to walk about. In the belly of the hold is a ripped in half lifeboat - from the Fitz. http://www.thevalleycamp.com/

Now imagine navigating a 800ft. freighter thru the Soo Locks in adverse weather. Really cool to watch from the observation platform!
https://webcam.crrel.usace.army.mil/soo/

When you say Michigan, the first thing that comes to mind to out of staters is Detroit, sorry to say. There are some nifty places to visit.
http://images.google.com/images?q=pictured%20rocks%20lake%20shore&oe=UTF-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi


125 posted on 05/19/2006 10:59:41 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Spruce
From the Great Lakes Shipwreck files

EDMUND FITZGERALD
Other names : none nicknamed "Big Fitz" and just "Fitz"
Official no. : 277437
Type at loss : propeller, steel, bulk freight
Build info : 1958, Great Lakes Engineering, River Rouge, MI
Specs : 699x74x39 13,632g 8,713n [729 ft oa]
Date of loss : 1975, Nov 10
Place of loss : N of the tip of Whitefish Point
Lake : Superior
Type of loss : storm
Loss of life : 29 [all]
Carrying : taconite pellets
Detail : Overwhelmed by 25 ft waves, 90 mph winds, the huge steamer broke apart and sank in deep water. Later remote control visits showed her twisted into pieces. Apparently she went down without much warning, but the single body that has been sighted was wearing a life jacket. http://www.boatnerd.com/fitz
Longest and most capacious vessel ever lost on the lakes.
Several dives in 1994 found a body and other evidence. In 1995 her bell was replaced by a replica engraved with the names of her lost crewmen - the original resides at the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum at Whitefish Point, Mich.
Sources: is(2-58),kys,ns5,ng,tv,nsp,gon,lss,hcgl ,etc.etc.

126 posted on 05/19/2006 11:00:35 PM PDT by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: Indy Pendance
Tragically, some of them have sunk or capsized while fishing for crabs in Alaska.
127 posted on 05/19/2006 11:01:58 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: drc43

The Anderson was the first freighter thru the Soo Locks for the 2006 shipping season.


128 posted on 05/19/2006 11:02:01 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Indy Pendance

Huron is pretty as well, but I think you have seen the best of the them all between Superior and Michigan :)


129 posted on 05/19/2006 11:02:36 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Westlander

From the second link (which I will return to):

Why are the cameras on delay?

A. For homeland security reasons the US Army has asked that all Web Cams associated with the US Army be on delay. If these cameras are not placed on delay they are subject to possible shut down.


GOOD TO KNOW!



130 posted on 05/19/2006 11:03:52 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Westlander
The Whitefish Point Museum is a tear jerker.

I have to see it.

131 posted on 05/19/2006 11:05:13 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Westlander; onyx
Oh definately, if you do the Great Lakes, you must see the Soo Locks and the Mackinaw (mac an awe) bridge will set your heart racing.


132 posted on 05/19/2006 11:06:12 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Dolphy

I live 10 miles from Lake Michigan. Born and raised here.


133 posted on 05/19/2006 11:06:57 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

Though it does not have the status of one of the 'Great Lakes', Lake St. Clair is ranked the #1 Muskie fishing lake.


134 posted on 05/19/2006 11:08:44 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: onyx

Are you referring to Michigan or Superior? When I growing up my father insisted we take a trip around Lake Superior one summer. It gets pretty desolate and like Maine, fall comes early. But it was among 3 things that I first remember taking my breath away in some sort of humbling and inspiring way (the other 2 were the Rocky Mountains in Colorado and the Maine coast).


135 posted on 05/19/2006 11:09:57 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Indy Pendance

On the Michigan side?


136 posted on 05/19/2006 11:11:03 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Indy Pendance


The beauty, even in that pic, is just stunning, Indy.


137 posted on 05/19/2006 11:12:03 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Spruce
They were almost there.


138 posted on 05/19/2006 11:12:54 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Dolphy

Yes, Lake Superior! I find it haunting. Now that you have told me about the desolate parts, I am all the more intrigued.


139 posted on 05/19/2006 11:13:50 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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To: Indy Pendance

I had no idea you lived so close to Lake Michigan. You're surrounded in beauty.


140 posted on 05/19/2006 11:15:13 PM PDT by onyx (Deport the trolls --- send them back to DU)
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