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North American Union to Replace USA? ("is this the plan?" alert!)
HumanEventsOnline.com ^ | 5/19/2006 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 05/19/2006 6:56:03 AM PDT by Dark Skies

President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy.

Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA to include Canada, setting the stage for North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada.

President Bush intends to abrogate U.S. sovereignty to the North American Union, a new economic and political entity which the President is quietly forming, much as the European Union has formed.

The blueprint President Bush is following was laid out in a 2005 report entitled "Building a North American Community" published by the left-of-center Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The CFR report connects the dots between the Bush administration's actual policy on illegal immigration and the drive to create the North American Union:

At their meeting in Waco, Texas, at the end of March 2005, U.S. President George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin committed their governments to a path of cooperation and joint action. We welcome this important development and offer this report to add urgency and specific recommendations to strengthen their efforts.

What is the plan? Simple, erase the borders. The plan is contained in a "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" little noticed when President Bush and President Fox created it in March 2005:

In March 2005, the leaders of Canada, Mexico, and the United States adopted a Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), establishing ministerial-level working groups to address key security and economic issues facing North America and setting a short deadline for reporting progress back to their governments. President Bush described the significance of the SPP as putting forward a common commitment "to markets and democracy, freedom and trade, and mutual prosperity and security." The policy framework articulated by the three leaders is a significant commitment that will benefit from broad discussion and advice. The Task Force is pleased to provide specific advice on how the partnership can be pursued and realized.

To that end, the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that "our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary." Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America.

The perspective of the CFR report allows us to see President Bush's speech to the nation as nothing more than public relations posturing and window dressing. No wonder President Vincente Fox called President Bush in a panic after the speech. How could the President go back on his word to Mexico by actually securing our border? Not to worry, President Bush reassured President Fox. The National Guard on the border were only temporary, meant to last only as long until the public forgets about the issue, as has always been the case in the past.

The North American Union plan, which Vincente Fox has every reason to presume President Bush is still following, calls for the only border to be around the North American Union -- not between any of these countries. Or, as the CFR report stated:

The three governments should commit themselves to the long-term goal of dramatically diminishing the need for the current intensity of the governments’ physical control of cross-border traffic, travel, and trade within North America. A long-term goal for a North American border action plan should be joint screening of travelers from third countries at their first point of entry into North America and the elimination of most controls over the temporary movement of these travelers within North America.

Discovering connections like this between the CFR recommendations and Bush administration policy gives credence to the argument that President Bush favors amnesty and open borders, as he originally said. Moreover, President Bush most likely continues to consider groups such as the Minuteman Project to be "vigilantes," as he has also said in response to a reporter's question during the March 2005 meeting with President Fox.

Why doesn’t President Bush just tell the truth? His secret agenda is to dissolve the United States of America into the North American Union. The administration has no intent to secure the border, or to enforce rigorously existing immigration laws. Securing our border with Mexico is evidently one of the jobs President Bush just won't do. If a fence is going to be built on our border with Mexico, evidently the Minuteman Project is going to have to build the fence themselves. Will President Bush protect America's sovereignty, or is this too a job the Minuteman Project will have to do for him?


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; barkingmoonbats; blackhelicopters; bordersecurity; cfr; corsi; delusions; illegalimmigation; kookism; kooks; koolaid; moonbats; nafta; nau; northamerica; northamericanunion; nutcases; oneworldgovernment; partnership; prosperity; security; sovereignty; spp; supercorridor; tinfoil; treason
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To: hedgetrimmer
"But an affiliation means membership. Many US government politicians and bureaucrats are members. They ARE affiliated."

OK. Let's apply your logic. If the fact that some members of the CFR serve in the US government means the CFR is affiliated with the US Government, then it must also be affiliated with NBC, National Review Magazine, the Hollywood Actors Guild, almost every University in the United States, the National Football League, the NBA and Sesame Street. Is that what you would like to argue?

601 posted on 05/21/2006 9:30:20 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: William Terrell
"Then you would have ignored my posts as harmless becaue you would have known the lack of truth improverishes ideas, some sooner, some later. Yet you fight hard agaisnt it."

I continue to respond to your posts as a courtesy. Nothing more.

602 posted on 05/21/2006 9:31:35 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke
I repeatedly answer a series of questions with exactly what tigerseye asks for, and he laughs and accuses me of being unable to answer his questions.

I didn't accuse you of not answering the question or any question. That is simply false. You did answer and I'm glad you stand by those replies. They are laughable.

603 posted on 05/21/2006 9:31:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: nicmarlo
I can still see him.I can also see live feed that we were getting and we shared that moment in time.Hearing gunfire seeing our troops all overwhelming.
604 posted on 05/21/2006 9:33:12 PM PDT by fatima (Kathy in Alaska is the best.)
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To: Rokke
But when you make statements unsupported by any evidence

Hmmm. You used the word affiliated. I gave you an generally agreed upon definition. Because a membership is an affiliation BY DEFINITION, I pointed out that many government officials and politicians are members. Is that not an affiliation? Other posters have put links to lists of government officials and politicians who are so affiliated, but if you need them to be posted here, I guess that can be done.

I did not make any false statements. I chastise you again.
605 posted on 05/21/2006 9:35:26 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: TigersEye
"Straightening out your train of though is not my bailywick."

So I guess you expect me to be a mind reader and just know "EXACTLY what you had in mind when you asked me to "Name one"". Um hmmm. Nice try. It is clear to both of us what you were asking. And that once you were proven wrong you weren't mature enough to admit it. Enough said.

606 posted on 05/21/2006 9:35:48 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: calcowgirl
"Don't limit your thoughts to just federal government officials. Schwarzenegger has appointed quite a few CFR members to high posts (Alan Bersin, for one)."

There are almost 4500 current members of CFR including some of the brightest and most talented minds in every career field and industry in this country. If any leader of any organization refused to hire someone because he belonged to the CFR, that person would be an idiot.

607 posted on 05/21/2006 9:38:52 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: fatima

I remembering watching the live webcams as that all was ongoing. It was incredible. I remember the bombings and sound of gunfire. It must have been something to have actually been there at the time. Not something one would look forward to being in the middle of, but unforgettable.


608 posted on 05/21/2006 9:39:54 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
"here"

Okaaaay. Could I ask you to offer a page number, or some related and commonly accepted means of reference.

609 posted on 05/21/2006 9:41:03 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke
There are almost 4500 current members of CFR including some of the brightest and most talented minds in every career field and industry in this country.

How can we get a membership list?
610 posted on 05/21/2006 9:43:12 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Rokke
So I guess you expect me to be a mind reader and just know "EXACTLY what you had in mind when you asked me to "Name one"".

I would expect you to take it in context. The context of your own statement that preceded it and I cut-and-pasted for clarification. Here it is again:

But your original statement slams Bush for not securing the border in a time of war. He joins a long and distinguished list of Presidents in that regard.

So what I had in mind was simple and clear; "Name one President that failed to secure the border in a time of war." You did and every single example fails spectacularly to parallel the situation facing GW Bush.

Do you disagree with that? /rhetorical question Obviously you do. Who cares? Move on. There is nothing more for you to milk from this other than another opportunity to display your inadequate supply of ad hominems.

611 posted on 05/21/2006 9:43:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: Rokke

Open the pdf file. click on the little binocular icon. Paste your search term into the text box. Click find.


612 posted on 05/21/2006 9:45:07 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
"The CFRs goal of the report is a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America."

Again, could you please cite where your quotes come from. That isn't too much to ask.

"Don't they mean a free, secure, just, and prosperous United States? How can a US based nongovernmental organization claim for a goal of a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America? "

If you are referring to the document we are discussing, it is the result of an independent task group sponsored by the CFR and composed of members from the US, Canada and Mexico.

"Surely that is out of their realm of influence as US citizens. Is their goal to overthrow the government of Mexico so it will become free, secure, just, and prosperous?"

Answer me one question here. Just answer it honestly. Have you read the CFR document titled "Building a North American Community." That is the document we are supposed to be discussing. I am asking you as a man of integrity to just answer whether or not you have actually read the whole document.

613 posted on 05/21/2006 9:50:24 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke
Have you read the CFR document titled "Building a North American Community."

a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America is in there. Use your search function.
614 posted on 05/21/2006 9:53:45 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: TigersEye
"I didn't accuse you of not answering the question or any question."

Does the following imply you thought I answered your question...."It was your criterion not mine. Your examples were laughable." I stand by my replies. You won't even state your question.

615 posted on 05/21/2006 9:55:40 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: jimrob; Admin Moderator; Pukin Dog; Rokke; All
Apparently Pukin Dog has the powers of a Moderator but is allowed to post under a normal handle and instead of following the usual protocols of a Moderator he can simply come onto a thread and start issuing threats. I highly doubt that Rokke called for help in dealing with me. He seems capable and confident enough to handle what comes his way. In which case Pukin Dog's warning/threat about "staying on topic" was his own warped invention. We were hardly that far from the main topic.

Is this what we have now? A forum with unofficial "attack dogs" (no pun intended) going from thread to thread enforcing unofficial rules? Let's clarify this now before we go any further. I'm sure all the forum members would like to know where they stand here.

616 posted on 05/21/2006 9:59:28 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: nicmarlo
I was online with memorable friends as we scurried to watch as one camera died and wanted to hear live reports posted.Crazy days that can not be repeated but we lived them live here.
617 posted on 05/21/2006 9:59:57 PM PDT by fatima (Kathy in Alaska is the best.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
"How can we get a membership list?"

This coming from a guy who won't even provide the page number for quotes he's posting??? Doesn't matter...here you go...

CFR Memebership

618 posted on 05/21/2006 10:01:58 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: TigersEye
"to display your inadequate supply of ad hominems."

An ironic statement coming from "laughing boy".

619 posted on 05/21/2006 10:03:18 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: fatima
Crazy days that can not be repeated but we lived them live here.

As did I. Seems almost forever ago.

620 posted on 05/21/2006 10:04:40 PM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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