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A Job Americans Won't Do, Even at $34 an Hour
LA Times ^ | 5/19/06

Posted on 05/18/2006 9:58:40 AM PDT by areafiftyone

Cyndi Smallwood is looking for a few strong men for her landscaping company. Guys with no fear of a hot sun, who can shovel dirt all day long. She'll pay as much as $34 an hour.

She can't find them.

Maybe potential employees don't know about her tiny Riverside firm. Maybe the problem is Southern California's solid economy and low unemployment rate. Or maybe manual labor is something that many Americans couldn't dream of doing.

"I'm baffled why more people do not apply," Smallwood says.

President Bush is not. In his speech to the nation Monday night, he referred to "jobs Americans are not doing," echoing a point he has been making for years. To fill these spurned jobs and keep the economy humming, Bush says, the U.S. needs a guest worker program.

Otherwise, the logic goes, fruit will rot in the fields, offices will overflow with trash and lawns and parks will revert to desert.

Countering that view, opponents of a guest worker program say that Americans would find the jobs more enticing if there wasn't foreign competition to swell the labor pool and push wages down.

Smallwood is ambivalent on immigration reform, saying demands for immediate citizenship by those who entered the country illegally are offensive. But without a guest worker program, she says, her company probably will not survive.

"To get workers, you have to steal them from other companies," the 54-year-old entrepreneur says.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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Why don't I believe this woman. My Grandfather was a Gardner/Landscaper and was not afraid to work long hours in the hot sun. What is going on here?
1 posted on 05/18/2006 9:58:44 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
Why don't I believe this woman.

I believe her. There are lots of Americans who are willing to do physical labor, just not enough.

2 posted on 05/18/2006 10:00:55 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: areafiftyone

She's probably taking about all of the wanna be actresses and actors out there in LA. No dirty jobs for them!


3 posted on 05/18/2006 10:01:01 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: areafiftyone

a load of crap. the work will get done as the balance of labor shift. It might take a while and the prices will fluctuate wildly for a while but the work will get done and by Americans to boot.


4 posted on 05/18/2006 10:01:37 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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5 posted on 05/18/2006 10:01:53 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: areafiftyone

This story smacks. It just doesn't sound right. I live in the middle USA where many jobs are still in the $7-9 range. $34.00 for yard work? Something doesn't sound right with this story.


6 posted on 05/18/2006 10:01:55 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Always Right

Lets see... 34*40*52 = 70,720 Pre-Tax

Where do I sign up?


7 posted on 05/18/2006 10:03:21 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Better to take what they can throw at us now,rather than take what they promise to throw at us later)
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To: areafiftyone

This has to be BS. Even in CA.

$34/hr is a good wage all over this country.

Is she claiming everyone else single manual labor job there already makes more than that?


8 posted on 05/18/2006 10:03:33 AM PDT by Pessimist
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I do not believe her either. 60k+ a year to do yardwork and she cannot find people?


9 posted on 05/18/2006 10:03:46 AM PDT by Iwentsouth
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To: TomGuy

Seventy grand a year to shovel dirt? Lying bit**.


10 posted on 05/18/2006 10:04:12 AM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: FreedomNeocon

Kinda' like McStain and his "you won't work for $50/hr if I offered it... not for a whole season"


11 posted on 05/18/2006 10:04:39 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (Better to take what they can throw at us now,rather than take what they promise to throw at us later)
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To: areafiftyone

Laura Ingraham smoked out this story early AM.
The story is a crock.


12 posted on 05/18/2006 10:04:50 AM PDT by SoCalPol (Hey Congress - We need the BORDER FENCE NOW)
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To: Always Right
It's a pride thing. Too many Americans, many young Americans, view such a job as 'beneath' them. It's a society of entitlement that looks at good jobs like these and says, 'no'.

Hell, if I were a college student right now, I'd jump at a job like this... keep in shape, get a tan, and make some great money.

Some people just have the wrong concepts. It's all in the marketing, really.

13 posted on 05/18/2006 10:04:50 AM PDT by rintense
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To: TomGuy

Yea I can't believe the pay its more than what I make an hour here in NYC.


14 posted on 05/18/2006 10:04:58 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

$34 a hour to shovel dirt?????? Riverside? Beverly Hills or Malibu, maybe, Riverside, doesn't compute.


15 posted on 05/18/2006 10:05:20 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: SoCalPol

Is she living in the middle of Compton or something?


16 posted on 05/18/2006 10:05:32 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: areafiftyone

Cancel some of the overly-generous generational welfare "rights", and I'm sure you'll be suprised at what Americans "won't" do.


17 posted on 05/18/2006 10:06:12 AM PDT by Alien Gunfighter (Secular Misanthropist)
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To: Pessimist

Probably $34 a day.


18 posted on 05/18/2006 10:06:13 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Always Right

See post #12
Stroy was a crock


19 posted on 05/18/2006 10:06:15 AM PDT by SoCalPol (Hey Congress - We need the BORDER FENCE NOW)
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To: FreedomNeocon
Where do I sign up?

Her company is called Diversified Landscape Management. Try there.

20 posted on 05/18/2006 10:06:17 AM PDT by Always Right
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