Posted on 05/17/2006 6:49:36 PM PDT by FARS
I was footnoting the information for the people I pinged to read this article.
When someone agrees with you and then explains why you are correct, you don't need to say, "What's your point?"
The point is accuracy.
Now someone posted previously that this congresswoman died 2 years after this vote at the age of 92. For accuracy, is that inaccurate?
No such plans have ever been released.
Yes. The fact that there is absolutely no evidence supporting the existence of these plans is exactly how we know that no such plans ever existed. That seems rather logical, doesn't it?
Do you have any evidence whatsoever that Germany or Japan planned to invade & occupy the continental U.S.? Do you have any evidence that such a thing would even be possible, much less plausible?
(and no, Japan floating several balloons over the west coast does not constitute an invasion)
The only case I know of in the last 10 years of the media cooperating with the government to decrease risk of something bad was during the Clinton administration, the media stopped reporting on hijackings because the lure for publicity was part of why planes were hijacked.
In the recent movie about United 93 we hear the air traffic controllers saying "We haven't had a hijacking in 20 years." But I don't know any pilots who would have been that ignorant, and I doubt the air traffic controllers were that ignorant either.
We were averaging around 70 hijackings a year prior to 9/11, but most were by solo deranged individuals, not part of a political religious movement.
What it boils down to is that the media will support Democrat governments, especially if they are allied with Russia in a world war, in efforts to decrease panic, but will never support a U.S. government if Russia, home of the first communist revolution, is aligned against it.
Superb article, IMHO.
You are correct. The pacifist Congresswoman wasn't 90 at the time of her solo dissenting vote to the Declaration of War against Germany.
I misread the post, missing the sentence that proceded the age of her death.
"in 1971 she continued her efforts by writing a letter to President Richard M. Nixon, asking him to end the war in Vietnam.
She died two years later, at age 92."
"The point is accuracy.
Now someone posted previously that this congresswoman died 2 years after this vote at the age of 92. For accuracy, is that inaccurate?"
Indeed...
She died in 1973 some 32 years after the vote. Try reading the article.
Thanks for the ping. Saving for later.
If I remember right, the Middle Eastern countries that had a declaration of war against the US before 911 were Libya, Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan.
"America's allies then were England, Ireland, Scotland, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, and Russia, and that was about it."
Scratch Ireland. (Apart from Northern Ireland.)
"Russia lost something like 24 million people in the sieges of Stalingrad and Moscow, 90% of them from cold and starvation, mostly civilians, but also more than a million soldiers. More than a million."
The total deaths for the USSR (including military) is figured to be 23 million.
This fellow needs to do some basic research.
Complete and utter bollox and I have the scars on my face to prove it.
Tell Raymond S. Kraft to don uniform and go out there.
I did aged 40 with a wife two children and a career behind me.
Token force my ass, we have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. and I love the way he writes about my Country when we stood up to the Nazis while America was still on the side lines.
For his information we won the Battle of Britain, were pulling together and slowly winning the Battle of the Atlantic.
Way to rewrite History.
At the time there was not much support for war with Germany in both France and Great Britain. There are many reasons for this.
The horrors of the First World War were still very fresh in both populations’ minds.
But there were other less known factors.
Many people in Great Britain at the time including many leading statesmen thought the treaty of Versailles was unfair to Germany. So they did not take a stand when Germany decided to tear it up. Part of this was they could not see a real objection to why the Germanic people could not unite under one German nation. This included the Rhineland, Austria and finally the Sudetenland.
It was when Germany annexed the rest of Czechoslovakia, after encouraging the Slovaks under Tiso to breakaway that they really woke up to the dangers of Hitler and Nazism, for the first time he brought a non-Germanic population under his control. This was the reason why France and Great Britain created a treaty with Poland, and tried to create a treaty with the Soviet Union, too late. The problem was pre Czech occupation; many in very important positions still viewed Stalin’s Russia as the main threat to Europe, and that Hitler a committed anti Bolshevik as an important bulwark. In the British establishment it was viewed as the height of folly to go to war with Hitler. They saw a rerun of the First World War, which would; who ever won would lead to more Bolshevik revolutions in Europe. In fact what was feared did come to pass war with Hitler led to the Communist occupation of Eastern Europe for over 40 years
There was a real scare of the Red Menace at the time.
Just as the Right Wing German establishment thought they could use Hitler to contain and deal with the Red Menace , so did the Establishments in Great Britain and France.
Only a few dissenters such as Winston Churchill saw this as folly.
Also at this time Britain was experiencing unrest in her empire Palestine, nationalist movement in Egypt and India, a growing Japanese menace.
They reasoned a European war would lead to diversion of military resources needed to safe guard the Empire.
And for people who do get it, with military experience it is a very lousy article.
Too much of a civilian view on the war backed up by no real understanding of what we are doing out there. What tactics and strategy we are using and why.
Because the weather's great, the food is wonderful and the entertainment can't be beat! It's why I just can't seem to leave the place.
(I don't need to put a sarcasm tag here, do I?)
So that stay at home types like Raymond S. Kraft can write articles about it from the safety of his library.
So that stay at home types like Raymond S. Kraft can write articles about it from the safety of his library.
The US has taken more than 2,000 KIA in Iraq in 3-years. The US took more than 4,000 Killed in action on the morning of June 6, 1944, the first day of the Normandy Invasion
The Ten Costliest Battles of the Civil War
Based on total casualties (killed, wounded, missing, and captured)
http://www.civilwarhome.com/Battles.htm
#1
Battle of Gettysburg
Date: July 1-3, 1863
Location: Pennsylvania
Confederate Commander: Robert E. Lee
Union Commander: George G. Meade
Confederate Forces Engaged: 75,000
Union Forces Engaged: 82,289
Winner: Union
Casualties: 51,112 (23,049 Union and 28,063 Confederate)
Very interesting post, and it makes sense.
Churchill obviously well-understood the 3rd quote on my FR home page, the two-paragraph one from Hayek. The last line sums it up:
"While to the Nazi the communist and to the communist the Nazi, and to both the socialist, are potential recruits made of the right timber, they both know that there can be no compromise between them and those who really believe in individual freedom."
Thanks for your service to your country, and to your country for being a great ally.
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