[wardaddy]

I would just like to get some better GOP in the Senate and discourage Bush from doing anything worse on this issue for now.

That is all that can be done.

Whether folks stay home is debatable to me but I will bet that the individual money will slow down to Open Borders RINOs.

Unless, the GOP goes the way of the Whigs, there will not be a third party yet and voting for one that can't win doesn't make sense to me yet.

Nonetheless, I am extremely disappointed over Amnesty. I was angry over Meirs too but not like this.

I don't see why a "conservative" President can't act like one on this and a few other issues when he has done rather well on other things.

However, refusing to get tough on illegal immigration is akin to refusing to engage the WOT...to me.

just my opinion

[CWOJackson]

"Unless, the GOP goes the way of the Whigs, there will not be a third party yet and voting for one that can't win doesn't make sense to me yet."

Despite the desires of some on both sides, the only chance a third party has at this time is right down the middle.

Ross Perot's Reform Party was very centrist, playing to both moderate Democrat and Republic voters (albeit more Republican) who weren't tied to any issues other then how ineffectual the two parties were in getting anything accomplished because of politics.

Strange as it seems, I think a national Mundane Party (just get the damned job done without politics or agenda) would appeal to a lot of people at this point in time.

[cake_crumb]

"I would just like to get some better GOP in the Senate and discourage Bush from doing anything worse on this issue for now.

"That is all that can be done."

With that I agree 100 percent.

However, President Bush is not, never has been and did not campaign as a "conservative". He's a moderate and never pretended to be anything else. He's extremely conservative only on SOME issues, pretty conservative on some others and middle of the road on all the rest, which is probably most. Being in line with the core conservatives is not tantamount to him announcing "I am a conservative, vote for me"