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President's Immigration speech - Live thread
me | 05/15/2006 | me

Posted on 05/15/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by devane617

Edited on 05/15/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: rodeocowboy

Yes, 12 years of GOP control--in some sense . . . has left a lot to be desired.

but DIMRAT control would have been 3-5 TIMES WORSE.


1,101 posted on 05/15/2006 5:42:28 PM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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To: silentknight

He also said they had to GET TO THE BACK OF THE LINE from those who are legal immigrants, learn English, etc. -- but I guess you missed those parts


1,103 posted on 05/15/2006 5:42:37 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (aka Princess Links)
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To: pleikumud
I agree. In fact Congress could demand more as a part of a compromise. Saying that I just saw Tancredo and King on Fox news. They said no comprehensive bill. They rather have as they put it "no bill rather than a bad one". Sigh. Well they have positions staked out they will not publicly change. I think there is some hope for a good bill out of this
1,104 posted on 05/15/2006 5:42:42 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (Proud supporter of Pres. Bush and the Gop-- with no caveats, qualifiers, or bitc*en)
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To: Sprite518
O'Reily is a a populist.

Right this is why he is all over this issue.

Its a real simple solution folks to get control of this.

2) Fine companies heavy amount of money (perhaps a percentage) if they hire illegal Aliens

Fine on first violation, jail on second. That would end this stuff real quick.

1,105 posted on 05/15/2006 5:42:47 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: HHKrepublican_2
Shutting the border completely is political suicide.

Failing to shut the border completely (to illegal entry) is ~cultural~ suicide.

1,106 posted on 05/15/2006 5:42:56 PM PDT by LK44-40
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To: JeffAtlanta

Welllll, you've been missing out on some fun! :-)


1,107 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:01 PM PDT by JennysCool ("I simply do not remember getting out of bed.")
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To: Iscool

-sure it's a form of amnesty........they get to stay here and drain us......


1,108 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:07 PM PDT by tioga (Spring is here, and allergy season is in full bloom.)
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To: navysealdad

W said that we deported SIX MILLION
if they can deport SIX MILLION
they can deport 12...

SEAL THE BORDER
BUILD A WALL
FINE EMPLOYERS WHO HIRE ILLEGALS

I agree with Peter King & Tom Tancredo!


1,109 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:10 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: KevinDavis

Nope - it started during WWII and that labor shortage too.


1,110 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:13 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: mkjessup

Illegals put on a path to citizenship is not amnesty to you. What exactly would be amnesty in your opinion?>


1,111 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:18 PM PDT by mthom
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To: ThreePuttinDude
"The RATS already have the Hispanic vote."

>>>>Disagree with that one.

Don't know how you can disagree with some well accepted facts. In the 2004 general election, exit polls showed Bush received 44% of the Hispanic vote. That was a new record for a Republican candidate. 56% went to John Kerry.

If Bush grants amnesty to the current 15 million mostly Hispanic illegals living in the US today, the Democrats will get the lions share of those new voters in future elections.

Republicans get the majority of legal immigrant Hispanic voters. While the Dems get a majority of illegal Hispanic immigrant voters. Big difference.

1,112 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:19 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: devane617

I liked what I heard tonight better than what President Bush had been saying. He made no mention of fixing the automatic citizenship to children born in this country to non-citizens. I still think that maybe no reform is better than passing anything that may come out of congress, especially the Senate.


1,113 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:20 PM PDT by skandalon (Liberalism is a sin.)
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To: Owen

Well said.


1,114 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:25 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: spectre

Get better.


1,115 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:28 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: LetsRok

Sadly --

Article II, Section 1, clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution states that:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The fourteenth amendment to the United State Constitution provides an additional source of constitutional doctrine that emphasizes birth "in the United States" and subjection to U.S. jurisdiction at the time of birth, as the defining elements of citizenship (other than citizenship by naturalization):

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the Jurisdiction thereof, are Citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. . ." Amendment XIV, section 1.


1,116 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:36 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: zook

W rocks. I have never taken my refrigerator magnet down and I wish I had left the bumper sticker on my car. I just figured that a flag and a fish were enough but I guess that they're not.


1,117 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:38 PM PDT by Mercat (It's still Easter and we are the Easter people.)
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To: pbrown

Wait, seething with anger is next.


1,118 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:40 PM PDT by steel_resolve (BUSH IS WHACK ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.)
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To: Sprite518

It wasn't.


1,119 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:42 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: devane617

If illegals have to get in line for citizenship, I figure those at the end -- behind 12,000,000 -- will be granted citizenship in about 500 years, considering the annual quotas.


1,120 posted on 05/15/2006 5:43:49 PM PDT by FoxInSocks
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