I disagree with the President on this, and have said so hundreds of times, consistently.
There are hundreds of freepers out there who are avoiding this topic altogether because of the hate, anger and unbridled emotion on these threads.
The fact that you've missed it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And trying to turn it around on me with the phony and false "You don't want anyone to criticize or disagree with the President" proves that you aren't paying attention to what's going on.
Lots of us want serious discussion of this, and we can't get it because of the hate........yes, hate, for the President and for those of us who respect him.
What more serious discussion do you need? It's all out there to see.
Some want amnesty... Some want the border protected (and want to hold Bush accountable for his inaction)... Some want open borders.... Some want to reward illegals with citizenship.... Some want a combination of those things.
What's left to "seriously discuss"?
Until Bush actually does something about it what else do we have, on this forum, other than debate. Just because people don't capitulate to your point of view doesn't translate into hate.
I don't think people hate me because they disagree. Let them disagree all they want. It's their right. But, disagreement about illegals and the border is the same as declaring the Constitution a living document. There really is no debate about the fact that Bush has not met his Constitutional duty regarding our border.
If a dem president were shirking his oath to the Constitution in this way you guys would be scraming "Impeach" rather than wanting to have a "serious discussion" about it. Hypocritical? I think so.
"Comprehensive reform" to me is the same as serious discussion. It simply means that you want those of us who want illegals to be deported and treated as criminals to come around to your way of thinking. Why should we? We believe in the sanctity of our borders from all invaders. You seem to want to talk about it until it's too late. (It may be already)
You probably interpret my post about Bush's speech as hate, too. It's not. It's information to some FReepers that may have not seen it. It gives them an idea where Bush's position is on this issue.
Don't you get it? He sees bi-lingualism and multi-culturalism as good thing. I don't. If he was saying that about any other ethnicity I would be saying the same thing.
This thread is about illegals and people are going to trash him on that. If you can't take it don't read them.