Posted on 05/11/2006 11:04:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
Senate leaders reached an agreement yesterday on immigration reform legislation that would strengthen border security but also would allow millions of illegal aliens who have been in the U.S. for two years or longer to apply for citizenship. Derided by conservatives as "amnesty," the proposal could be amended but senators on both sides of the aisle say they doubt it will be dramatically altered. "Senate Republicans are united in their commitment to an open and full debate on multiple amendments," said a statement from seven Republicans who represent the full spectrum of positions on immigration reform. "We are willing to put differences aside so we can get on with the important work to be done securing our borders and grappling with the 12 million illegal immigrants currently living in our country," said the group that included Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Sen. John Cornyn of Texas. "We are also in agreement that efforts to curtail the debate prematurely will only derail this process. We call on Senate Democrats to allow an open debate and votes on this complex and challenging issue," the statement read. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, with whom Mr. Frist has been negotiating for weeks, said he "welcomed" the return of the thorny bill to the floor.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
well, I'm here in Texas, although in a corner that actually had virtually no trace of illegals as recently as ten years ago. But, as I mentioned in another thread, I now find myself out shopping, and 50% of the voices I hear are in Spanish. It's astonishing how quickly all this occurred.
And, just a few weeks ago, a couple of illegals were out robbing a couple of quickie-marts in quick succession, and in their getaway, they rammed into a killed a local 18-year-old kid, who'd just taken on his first job. This happened only a few blocks down the street from where I live. This type of thing never used to happen around here. You can just see the whole area, and so many surrounding communities just going to Hell, and becoming third-worldish. There are times I'm driving through areas in which I don't feel like I'm in the good 'ole USA anymore.
So, yes, I'm MAD, MAD, MAD. The politicians have ignored this for years and years, and now they just want to surrender. My GOP representatives lean pretty strongly conservative, so I'm expecting to continue supporting them (unless they go the way of Bush-Kennedy). But, I have to admit, my long-standing support and loyalty to the GOP is extremely frayed at this point. If anything remotely resembling amnesty goes through... well... hard to say. I never fell for Perot or Buchanan back in the day. But, the GOP will really be 'mud' to me.
I'll stay at home but I won't be joining a purge, I vote by mail, for Repubs.
In case some have forgotten this:
Bush administration OK’s border security fence
Sep 15, 2005 1:46 PM
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff on Wednesday waived environmental laws preventing completion of a 14-mile-long border fence that will run through coastal wetlands to the Pacific Ocean. According to the Los Angeles Times, the remaining 3.5 miles of fence are expected to cost $32 million dollars and will combine with two new roads, other fencing, lighting and surveillance cameras to form a “security corridor.”
Los Angeles Times
http://www.americancityandcounty.com/news/Bush_border_fence/index.html
Really? Did you vote for Coors for Senate in 04?
politicket wrote: "When citizens like my wife and I leave their party then they sure better hope that those illegals given a free amnesty ride will take our place in the Republican voting booth..."
You know, the RINOs might indeed be hoping to win the Hispanic vote (replacing you in the voting booth) by an amnesty. Nevertheless, if you go third party you are only making your vote more irrelevant. Get with other conservatives in your state and attempt to take the Republican Party back if you don't already have a good, conservative team in place. Tom Tancredo, for example, is already on our side. Do your best to give him some allies.
That has got to be one of the most stupid things anyone has said.
thank you. (from one who has taken it on the chin many times {newt gingrich is a philanderer], etc.). ugh. welcome to the club.
Did any of you see this? I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. Maybe I missed it.
Rep. Lewis Subject of Federal Probe
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060512/ap_on_go_co/congressman_lobbyist_1;_ylt=ArNbsMIWA302KCGQFBB9u4GMwfIE;_ylu=X3oDMTBidHQxYjh2BHNlYwN5bnN0b3J5
Don't worry about me advocating any demorat for anything. It will never happen. However, it is getting harder and harder to recognize the difference between the two parties and that is really unsettling. Or, as a demorat would say, "troubling".
abigailsmybaby wrote: "What would you do with a family of six that came here legally, kept their green cards updated and legal at all times, spent thousands of dollars and 15 years to gain citizenship for the whole family. Spit in their faces or a knife in the back?"
Any decent American would bend over backward to welcome such a family!!! We owe it to those who come here respecting the rule of law to expel the illegals. If we let the illegals stay, we spit in the face of millions of legal immigrants--our dear friends.
Sell out alert should be proper.
"well, I'm here in Texas, although in a corner that actually had virtually no trace of illegals as recently as ten years ago. But, as I mentioned in another thread, I now find myself out shopping, and 50% of the voices I hear are in Spanish. It's astonishing how quickly all this occurred. "
Imagine how bad it will get after this farcical "amnesty" goes through - the illegals already feel entitled to that which they don't have a right to - this will just further strengthen their position to demand things, and get them.
I'm not the kind of person who desires or advocates civil disobedience, but I'm wondering what we need to do to make these useless politicians understand we the American people do NOT want amnesty for criminals.
The next few years look bleak, I'm getting that same empty feeling in the pit of my stomach when it looked like Clinton would actually lead this country.
"well, I'm here in Texas, although in a corner that actually had virtually no trace of illegals as recently as ten years ago. But, as I mentioned in another thread, I now find myself out shopping, and 50% of the voices I hear are in Spanish. It's astonishing how quickly all this occurred. "
Imagine how bad it will get after this farcical "amnesty" goes through - the illegals already feel entitled to that which they don't have a right to - this will just further strengthen their position to demand things, and get them.
I'm not the kind of person who desires or advocates civil disobedience, but I'm wondering what we need to do to make these useless politicians understand we the American people do NOT want amnesty for criminals.
The next few years look bleak, I'm getting that same empty feeling in the pit of my stomach when it looked like Clinton would actually lead this country.
AmeriBrit wrote: "Hitlery, Reid, Pelosi, Dean and the rest of the RAT's would love nothing better than to see the Republican party in shambles."
EXACTLY! Fight like hell to put conservatives on the ballot in your state, but if they lose, support the Republican candidate. Otherwise, we'll be hearing "Hail to the Chief" to Hitlery soon.
The Senate has already indicated it has no desire to pass a bill as nearly as restrictive as HR 4437. They are hell bent on granting amnesty to the criminals already in country. The Senate is acting as if THEY are the government.
I heard that about senator Tom.
Man has he ever turned out to be a great senator.
He reminds me of a Teddy Roosevelt, speak softly and carry a big stick.
putupjob wrote: "Join the Republican Purge, 2006. Stay home."
That's so obviously defeatist! I don't know your party affiliation, but anyone who follows your advice is going to make themselves totally irrelevant. I dislike the RINOs and everything they stand for, but a RINO is better than a liberal Democrat. The important battle isn't in November, you know, it's in the months leading up to the primaries. Use your vote to get the best deal you can!
Totally agree with that and your previous post #13. Giving the Senate or House to Dems is not an option, we'd just lose what we've gained in the last few years.
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