Posted on 05/11/2006 11:04:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
Senate leaders reached an agreement yesterday on immigration reform legislation that would strengthen border security but also would allow millions of illegal aliens who have been in the U.S. for two years or longer to apply for citizenship. Derided by conservatives as "amnesty," the proposal could be amended but senators on both sides of the aisle say they doubt it will be dramatically altered. "Senate Republicans are united in their commitment to an open and full debate on multiple amendments," said a statement from seven Republicans who represent the full spectrum of positions on immigration reform. "We are willing to put differences aside so we can get on with the important work to be done securing our borders and grappling with the 12 million illegal immigrants currently living in our country," said the group that included Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Sen. John Cornyn of Texas. "We are also in agreement that efforts to curtail the debate prematurely will only derail this process. We call on Senate Democrats to allow an open debate and votes on this complex and challenging issue," the statement read. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, with whom Mr. Frist has been negotiating for weeks, said he "welcomed" the return of the thorny bill to the floor.
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Isn't that the truth!!
Prohibition was not rational either - there are plenty of laws that are not "rational" - it is IMPOSSIBLE to round up every illegal alien and deport them.
Thanks for the info - I had no idea about all those mini-amnesties - I wonder how many of these went on to become good citizens and GOP voters?
Obviously we disagree. Ask Owen though - he was the one who originally brought up the West Point cadet with an illegal alien parent.
so true!
>>I hate what has happened here on FR over the immigration issue and don't quite understand why the people who want strong border enforcement are all of a sudden considered to be a troll. <<
In truth, they don't REALLY believe that you are a troll.
It's just a cheap smear to try to shout down fair debate. Like "racist" or "sexist." It's hitting "below the belt" but people are wise to it, and it doesn't work any more. Don't worry.
:-)
Maybe the father is too scared of "people hunting migrant people along the border" to apply for citizenship - can you answer the hypothetical question now?
Y'know, you FROBL's are all alike. Same old ridiculous arguments. Just because we can't achieve 100% success, then we shouldn't even try. I'd certainly settle for 90%, which IS possible.
I wouldn't want 90% if the result is a massive recession and/or global trade war.
No. You brought it up. And then I asked what you would do if this family broke into your home and refused to leave and demanded to be able to live there. You never answered that question.
Sounds like they can afford to visit mom and dad in the "old country". At what point does breaking our laws become acceptable?
Let me see---deporting 11 million lettuce pickers is going to cause a "massive recession"? I don't think so. As to a "global trade war", WHO precisely, would we be at war with?? Mexico?? They need our trade a lot more than we need theirs.
Some will never keep the discussion polite, because that would involve listening to another side say that GW might actually be wrong on an issue. Heaven forbid if anyone declare that our President is human and actually can be wrong. You can respectfully state your opinion all you want and still be flamed, called a troll, a DUer ... or whatever the flavor of the week is.
When I took the side of wait and see on Harriet Miers.. I was called a bot... now I disagree with the administration's immigration stance and I'm a border troll.
I guess an accurate description is I'm a Bot-Border-Troll (or for those who like alphabets, a BBT).
Some people here want to throw all the employers in jail too - how many of those do you think it will take for a recession to hit? Also, "global" means the entire world - what if China starts shipping everything to Mexico rather than the U.S.?
Sorry - I must have missed that one in the 100 posts I was trying to catch up on - I would call the police. Unfortunately for you, the analogy breaks down because the U.S. can absorb, and actually needs, illegal aliens much more than my house.
When they are inhumane.
Tell that to a judge.
We're doing one better - we are telling it to the LEGISLATORS ; )
I did not accuse Robinson personally but the Mods are Bots and their wolf packs are allowed to run wild.
Fair or not.
You should have seen how Bush was talked about around here in the old days.
And his daddy.
I supported him hardcore. I will always view W with ambivalence....just like I do his daddy.
The Bots are on one side. Their's. It's like a perverse little club.
Would you like me to freepmail you the top bullies in their gang?
You can follow them around and watch them threaten like they own the joint.
Call old timers trolls.
And talk about "Lists" while they hive five over who is the biggest toe-sucker like they are some sort of forum gestapo.
They are pukes.
A lot of decent folks have been banned for saying far less than used to be said around here in the old days about W.
All that talk about folks voting Dem in disgust has so little truth. It's just subterfuge to thwart dissent and elevate their club.
The same club that ironically during Schiavo would tarred and feathered JR give a chance.
This is Free Republic. A highly subjective joint unless folks are rallied like an election or war.
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