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To: CarolinaGuitarman
The fact that you have no scientific objection to intelligent design tells me that you oppose it on purely emotional or philosophical grounds. At the same time you prefer to see the force of law brought to bear on your emotional, philosophical predelictions.

. . . to be able to gather objective evidence . . .

The most objective evidence is to have the crime repeated exactly as it took place. This cannot and does not happen in a court of law. Shame on you for equating the practices of criminal justice with the certitude of the repeatable, testable claims of science. Organized matter that performs specific functions is repeatable and testable, and is often and easily traced to the natural undertakings of intelligent beings. The big bang is not.

623 posted on 05/04/2006 5:42:29 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"The fact that you have no scientific objection to intelligent design tells me that you oppose it on purely emotional or philosophical grounds."

My objection IS scientific; ID is untestable, and therefore cannot by definition be scientific. No untestable claims can be scientific. You have only your feelings and wishes to back up your claims. Yet you want the state to push your unscientific, theological preferences on unsuspecting science students. It's the ID'ers who are the bullies. Not that you are an ID'er; you're a YEC.

"The most objective evidence is to have the crime repeated exactly as it took place. This cannot and does not happen in a court of law."

Gee, I wonder why... it's funny how they can come to any conclusions at all....lol

"Shame on you for equating the practices of criminal justice with the certitude of the repeatable, testable claims of science. "

Shame on you for being so dense as to still think that science has ever claimed to provide certitude. What an elementary error.

"Organized matter that performs specific functions is repeatable and testable,..."

And as heuristically important as a pile of dung.

"The big bang is not."

The Big Bang has already been tested, and more tests are still being done.

ID is untestable. As you have already admitted.
628 posted on 05/04/2006 5:51:24 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Shame on you for equating the practices of criminal justice with the certitude of the repeatable, testable claims of science."

And just which tests are these?

"Organized matter that performs specific functions is repeatable and testable, and is often and easily traced to the natural undertakings of intelligent beings"

Please supply some examples of "organized matter that performs specific functions" that is not the result of human action.

638 posted on 05/04/2006 6:06:28 PM PDT by b_sharp
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