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To: trashcanbred
So do you see now how this isn't philosophical at all?

Your entire post was philosophical. You cannot empirically test the assertion that "ID is not science." You can only argue for the assertion philosphically.

And may I ask what makes intelligent design "supernatural?" Are you spooked by orgnized matter that peforms specific functions? Intelligent design is the stuff of science. Without it nothing would be observable or quantifiable, let alone intelligible.

251 posted on 05/03/2006 2:41:01 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Your entire post was philosophical. You cannot empirically test the assertion that "ID is not science." You can only argue for the assertion philosphically.

Really?? I love this! I was philosophical? Where was that, pray tell? Was it the part where I said scienctific explanations do not depend on "supernatural" phenomena? Oh I suppose what I claimed is a "branch" of philosophy. That branch is known as "logic". Let's play with Logic a bit shall we?

I used to write software for forensic scientists and I know a little bit of the trade. Now... do you think that if scientists answered questions based on the "supernatural" instead of the evidence a jury could take him/her seriuously? Let's look at an example:

Lawyer: "His DNA was on her Dress? Couldn't there be a 'supernatural' explanation"?
Scientist:"Well gee... since scientific answers are now based on the supernatural and unknown intelligence I suppose it could have."
Judge and Jury: "Mr. Rapist... you are free..."

Well thankfully scientists don't do such things... but for some reason YOU want to. See science is based on evidence... that is not so much philosophical as it is LOGICAL! Oh... I am sorry... sometimes I scream the obvious.

And may I ask what makes intelligent design "supernatural?"

Intelligent Design says what? Go to the BIG PROPONENT of ID: the Discovery Institute web site and they say that an "unknown intelligence made life". They don't say God... as a matter of fact the founder of the Discovery Institute recently wrote an article saying "Oh no we don't mean God, but we do mean some form of unknown, invisible, intelligence". Hmmmm.... now that is funny... IF that is not "supernatural" then what is my friend???

Are you spooked by orgnized matter that peforms specific functions? Intelligent design is the stuff of science. Without it nothing would be observable or quantifiable, let alone intelligible.

Oh... well here I stop having fun because none of this makes a bit of sense. How about doing me a favor. Show me what evidence there is for ID and I will debate it with you. Otherwise your theory doesn't really hold up to any scientific scrutiny does it? It is on par with the Tom Cruise belief of Xenu, intergalactic ruler of the Universe.

263 posted on 05/03/2006 3:36:58 PM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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