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Gung-ho US Troops Urged To Be More British
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 5-3-2006 | Francis Harris

Posted on 05/02/2006 5:38:04 PM PDT by blam

Gung-ho US troops urged to be more British

By Francis Harris in Washington
(Filed: 03/05/2006)

A senior American general has ordered his troops to reduce the lethal force used against Iraqis, citing fears that trigger-happy behaviour is aggravating the insurgency.

Lt Gen Peter Chiarelli, who commands operations for the 132,000 American soldiers in the country, told his men to display more sensitivity and reach for their guns less often.

"We risk the chance of creating an insurgent, of creating somebody who gets so disgusted. . . that they get off the fence and go to the wrong side," he told the New York Times. "That has probably happened in many instances."

Gen Chiarelli is known as an apostle of the British approach to counter-insurgency warfare that is increasingly favoured by many in America's military.

On a previous tour in Iraq, he worked to win Iraqi hearts in Baghdad through involvement in projects such as the provision of water.

American troops in the most violent areas of Iraq face regular attack by suicide bombers and gunmen. Iraqis have complained that the Americans are too willing to open fire first and ask questions later.

Now the troops have been told to use lethal force as a last resort. They are being issued with new equipment, including the wider use of the bright flashing lights of stroboscopes at night to warn Iraqi divers (drivers?) of an approaching checkpoint. Troops will also use warning signs in Arabic rather than warning shots.

In a further attempt to aid troops and reduce Iraqi casualties, intelligence officers have identified signs in the behaviour of suicide bombers and other assailants. A list will be issued to combat troops patrolling towns and cities.

The general said: "What we are asking people to do is think through and talk through with soldiers. . . and ask, 'When should you apply deadly force?' "

To underline his point, Gen Chiarelli sent his subordinate commanders articles from British newspapers criticising the sometimes tough tactics used by American soldiers at roadblocks and when driving in convoy.

"I don't think it hurts us at all to take a look at it. . . It falls in line with what I am trying to do in urging a higher level of understanding and cultural sensitivity."

But some American officers have criticised the new approach, saying that it could create more casualties among their men.

More than 2,400 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq as well as an estimated 39,000 Iraqis. One officer told the New York Times: "The restrained approach, as it is manifesting itself on the ground, is beginning to handcuff our soldiers."

British officers have told their men to use a softer approach with Iraqis. Troops are encouraged to use the traditional Arab greetings and spurn sunglasses, which prevent eye contact.


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KEYWORDS: be; british; gungho; iraq; more; oif; troops; urged; us
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I'll see if I can find the article I recently posted about how the British troops are afraid they'll be prosecuted if they defend themselves.
1 posted on 05/02/2006 5:38:07 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Gen Chiarelli? Nahhhhhhh, kill 'em all. God will know his own.


2 posted on 05/02/2006 5:39:59 PM PDT by null and void (American leftists are more concerned about regaining their power than with the safety of the country)
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British Troops In Iraq Are Afraid To Open Fire, Secret MoD Report Confirms
3 posted on 05/02/2006 5:41:19 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

hmmmmm.... let's see Gung-Ho or not Gung-Ho????? Gung-Ho is why Patton beat Monty - DUH!!!


4 posted on 05/02/2006 5:42:40 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: blam
Sure. Marines to drink tea and pronounce tissue as tissssss-you

Bloody hell.

5 posted on 05/02/2006 5:44:21 PM PDT by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit. There are sober people in Africa.)
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To: null and void
I saw this on a bumpersticker the other day:

U.S. Marines - God judges the terrorists...we just arrange the meeting.

6 posted on 05/02/2006 5:44:28 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: blam

We need to unleash hell on the militias and clean up Ramadi and Baghdad and then we can police Iraq in a more UK type way.


7 posted on 05/02/2006 5:45:23 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: blam

I read the news today, oh boy
The English Army had just won the war...


8 posted on 05/02/2006 5:46:19 PM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: blam

I hate to say this but does this general know his own troops?


9 posted on 05/02/2006 5:49:58 PM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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"...spurn sunglasses, which prevent eye contact"

Anyone working outside in a desert landscape must wear sunglasses to protect their vision. To suggest otherwise is absolute nonsense.


10 posted on 05/02/2006 5:50:10 PM PDT by Sabatier
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Lt Gen Peter Chiarelli, who commands operations for the 132,000 American soldiers in the country, told his men to display more sensitivity and reach for their guns less often.

Fire this clown NOW.

11 posted on 05/02/2006 5:52:17 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: blam

If I was the parent of one of this clown's soldiers I would be very, very afraid.


12 posted on 05/02/2006 5:55:50 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Lt Gen Peter Chiarelli, who commands operations for the 132,000 American soldiers in the country, told his men to display more sensitivity and reach for their guns less often.

Another Clintoon hold over?

Koom baa-ya around the IED's, gentlemen?

13 posted on 05/02/2006 5:57:58 PM PDT by llevrok (sui generis)
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To: blam

God forbid....
If this is the mentality of our Generals, pull out the troops now and let whatever happens - happen..

Give this General the Salvation Army to command.....
Not warriors.

Who the hell wants to die in order to avoid insulting or inflaming and armed opponent?

Semper Fi


14 posted on 05/02/2006 6:01:17 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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Gung-Ho is why Patton beat Monty

Gung-Ho is Chinese for "work together" and was popularized by Mao's troops in the 1930's.

15 posted on 05/02/2006 6:04:07 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: river rat

He's a poly sci kinda of guy. Another wesley weasel



Here's his CV
SOURCE OF COMMISSIONED SERVICE ROTC

MILITARY SCHOOLS ATTENDED
Armor Officer Basic Course
Infantry Officer Advanced Course
United States Naval Command and Staff College
National War College

EDUCATIONAL DEGREES
Seattle University - BS - Political Science
University of Washington - MPA - International Relations and Economics
United States Naval War College - MA - National Security and Strategic Studies

FOREIGN LANGUAGE(S) None recorded

PROMOTIONS DATES OF APPOINTMENT

2LT 21 Sep 72
1LT 21 Sep 74
CPT 21 Sep 76
MAJ 1 Mar 84
LTC 1 Mar 90
COL 1 Jun 95
BG 1 Sep 99
MG 1 Jan 03
LTG 22 Nov 05

MAJOR DUTY ASSIGNMENTS

FROM TO ASSIGNMENT

Mar 73 Jun 75 Platoon Leader, later Executive Officer, Headquarters and Headquarters Troop, 3d Squadron (Air), 5th Cavalry, 9th Infantry Division, Fort Lewis, Washington
Jun 75 Dec 77 S-2 (Intelligence), later Commander, A Troop, 3d Squadron, 5th Cavalry, 9th Infantry Division, Fort Lewis, Washington
Jan 78 Jul 78 Student, Infantry Officer Advanced Course, United States Army Infantry School, Fort Benning, Georgia
Aug 78 Jun 80 Student, University of Washington, Seattle, Washington
Jun 80 Jun 84 Instructor, later Assistant Professor, United States Military Academy, West Point, New York
Jul 84 Jun 85 Student, United States Naval Command and Staff College, Newport, Rhode Island
Jun 85 Oct 87 S-3 (Operations), 3d Battalion, 33d Armor, 3d Armored Division, United States Army Europe and Seventh Army, Germany
Oct 87 Jun 89 S-3 (Operations), 2d Brigade, 3d Armored Division, United States Army Europe and Seventh Army, Germany
Jul 89 Jun 90 Assistant Operations Officer, G-3 (Operations), I Corps, Fort Lewis, Washington
Jun 90 Aug 92 Commander, 2d Battalion, 1st Infantry, 9th Infantry Division, Fort Lewis, Washington
Aug 92 Jun 93 Student, National War College, Fort Lesley J. McNair, Washington, DC
Jun 93 May 95 G-3 (Operations), 1st Cavalry Division, Fort Hood, Texas
May 95 Apr 96 Deputy G-3 (Operations) and Director for Plans, Training and Mobilization, III Corps, Fort Hood, Texas
May 96 Jul 98 Commander, 3d Brigade, 2d Infantry Division, Fort Lewis, Washington
Aug 98 Jul 00 Executive Assistant, later Executive Officer to the Supreme Allied
Commander Europe, Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe,
Belgium
Aug 00 Aug 01 Assistant Division Commander (Support), 1st Cavalry Division
Fort Hood, Texas
Aug 01 Jul 03 Director of Operations, Readiness and Mobilization, Office of the
Deputy Chief of Staff, G-3, United States Army, Washington, DC
Mar 04 Feb 05 Commanding General, 1st Cavalry Division, OPERATION IRAQI
FREEDOM, Iraq
Mar 05 Nov 05 Commanding General, 1st Cavalry Division, Fort Hood, Texas
Jan 06 Commanding General, Multi-National Corps-Iraq

SUMMARY OF JOINT ASSIGNMENTS Dates Grade

Executive Assistant, later Executive Officer to the Aug 98 - Jul 00 Brigadier General
Supreme Allied Commander Europe, Supreme
Headquarters Allied Powers Europe, Belgium

US DECORATIONS AND BADGES
Distinguished Service Medal
Defense Distinguished Service Medal
Legion of Merit (with 2 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Bronze Star Medal
Defense Meritorious Service Medal
Meritorious Service Medal (with 4 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Army Achievement Medal (with Oak Leaf Cluster)
Army Staff Identification Badge


As of 26 January 2006


16 posted on 05/02/2006 6:09:41 PM PDT by Covenantor
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"Gung-ho US troops urged to be more British"

Good-day Mate!


17 posted on 05/02/2006 6:12:05 PM PDT by ruiner
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To: blam

Its a tough one I know, but the man has a point.

Will it create more risk for the US troops: Yes
Will it help on the ground in 'winning the hearts and minds': Yes
Is it worth the trade? Thats up to everyone to decide for themselves.

Having waged a counter-insurgency war for decades in Northern Ireland and Oman, the UK military have developed good tactics when it comes to this kind of scenario. Obviously, in a full-blown war, it doesn't pay to ask questions first, but in a policing, counter-insurgency role it is the best course of action.
Yes its more risky for the troops, but you always have to trade off safety in order to gain the trust of the locals. Thats how you win the hearts and minds, and makes the people 'on the fence', fall on our side and not the enemies.
Also, as for the shades, it is indeed part of Arabic culture to see a mans eyes. To 'hide' ones eyes is a sign that the individual isn't trustworthy, and is unwilling to look a man face to face. Lessons learned through troopers who lost their lives in Northern Ireland and Oman are lessons worth learning.


18 posted on 05/02/2006 6:12:30 PM PDT by Lost Humanist
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To: blam

Maybe they should learn to speak Arabic too.


19 posted on 05/02/2006 6:14:24 PM PDT by Karl Rand
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To: blam

I just wrote a letter to my Congressman conplaining about this guy. We'll see how long this guy stays in the Army.


20 posted on 05/02/2006 6:23:26 PM PDT by captain_dave
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