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Bolivia seizes gas fields
http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=654402006 ^

Posted on 05/02/2006 7:36:20 AM PDT by Grendel9

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To: Jimbaugh

"Cruise Missle Alert !!!"


you mean Lockheed proving grounds practice area alert.....


21 posted on 05/02/2006 8:11:14 AM PDT by jmq (Islam=Religion of Peace)
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To: markedman

I say screw these Latin American countries. End U.S. foreign aid to them, recall all of our ambassadors and trade reps. Advise Americans not to travel there. Let them stew in their own feces.


22 posted on 05/02/2006 8:14:26 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (FR's most controversial FReeper)
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To: Grendel9

Why do all of these South American countries blithely ignore the ruin that falls upon each and every country that turns itself over to leftists?


23 posted on 05/02/2006 8:14:40 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Grendel9

There is no going back after you confiscate assets. Bolivia just cut its own throat. Venezuela, and now Bolivia, are on the track to become New Zimbabwe - and Bolivia didn't have that far to go.


24 posted on 05/02/2006 8:14:45 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Realism

They've admitted they can't tap oil on their own, though. It's just thievery to rent the place to someone else, let them set up shop, then move in and steal it.


25 posted on 05/02/2006 8:21:49 AM PDT by wizardoz
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To: agere_contra

And somehow it's all America's fault!!
Communism and socialism are the reason the South American economy is in shambles.


26 posted on 05/02/2006 8:28:06 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
insisting that market forces don't exist and that oil companies are gouging us.

Isn't that where one person or a group of people own all the oil producing capabitlities because they were allowed to buy up all the competition, and then they say, 'we got it, if you want it, you'll eventually have to sell your soul'???

I can't wait til you guys figure out how to privatize the city water supplies...

27 posted on 05/02/2006 8:28:17 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: wizardoz

I'm not saying it's right, but I am seeing a trend forming with producers on one side and consumers on the other. We can't invade them all, our only way out is alternative energy.


28 posted on 05/02/2006 8:33:28 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Junior_G
Why do all of these South American countries blithely ignore the ruin that falls upon each and every country that turns itself over to leftists?

The neoliberal adjustments imposed by the IMF haven't made the lives of middle and lower class South Americans better, in fact, in many cases they have suffered greatly. I guess they feel they have nothing to loose and maybe something to gain.

29 posted on 05/02/2006 8:33:57 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: hgro; Grendel9

Imagine yourself as an entrepreneur, trying to build wealth in a country where a mob or a politician or a band of rogue cops or wannabe guerrillas can take it from you. Imagine the relationships you would have to build to protect it, and the personal security steps you would have to take, and you will understand much better why these countries are the way they are.

Now imagine that your investment is seized. Imagine, now, what you will have to do to get it back.

If you've been salting some of it away in south Florida, you may just decide its not worth it, and just go there. Imagine that generations of entrepreneurs have had to protect themselves by making investments outside the country, just in case, and again you will understand why these places are the way they are.

Morales has the upper hand, and he is cashing in. Tomorrow someone will pop him, and take over. The day after, someone else will push him aside, and take over. Not many people can survive and build any kind of wealth in such a place, and in fact there isn't much industrial wealth there. Who would risk it? BP risked it, and they are paying a price now. If BP isn't prepared to play the game the way its played there, they will not get it back, and they would be better off to focus their investments in countries that have laws.

Morales and his gang will suck the life out of wealth that others built, and build nothing themselves. And then they will disappear into history, just like all the others.


30 posted on 05/02/2006 8:34:59 AM PDT by marron
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To: Iscool
Isn't that where one person

One person owning all oil producing capabilities? Who?

31 posted on 05/02/2006 8:35:54 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Grendel9

What's funny is that there is stuff in this article that one would not see in a US MSM produced article.


32 posted on 05/02/2006 8:38:03 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ICE, ICE Baby.)
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To: Barney Gumble
People should also keep China in mind.

Absolutely! China is making heavy investments in SA.

33 posted on 05/02/2006 8:40:08 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: Grendel9
Bolivia seizes gas fields

Boy, now they'll be rich! Their problems are over!

How does that progressive marxist slogan go?

"El pueblo, unido, jamas sera vencido!"

Any dumb b*stard who believes this commie swill deserves what they get.

34 posted on 05/02/2006 8:50:20 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: Mad Dawg

'Atlas Shrugged', Spanish translation.


35 posted on 05/02/2006 8:55:20 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: marron

I hope BP pulls out. If they stay for the pittance they'll get, they'll send a message to every other third world cesspool they deal with: "Let us set up drilling in your country. Then you can steal it and we'll become your obedient servants."


36 posted on 05/02/2006 9:01:37 AM PDT by wizardoz
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To: Rummyfan

There are two countries that are gradually coming into the new century, Brazil and Chile. They have a long way to go but Chile is almost there and Brazil is improving each year.


37 posted on 05/02/2006 9:23:53 AM PDT by hgro
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To: wizardoz; Grendel9

Oil companies are experienced in the art of dealing with third world thieves and potentates, so there is an even chance they will come to an accommodation they can live with.

But make no mistake. The situation of an "elite" that controls the wealth of the country will not be less true with Morales in charge, it will be more true. Bolivia's first hope to break out of its poverty was when they convinced the oil companies to develop their gas fields, and they built the 2000 kilometer pipeline to Brazil.

That put Bolivia on the map for the first time in several centuries as a place you could prosper.

But it also tied Bolivia to Brazil's business cycle. The second hope for Bolivia was a second pipeline to the sea, to tie them to the world. That is when the mobs went crazy, because according to Morales, that meant "slavery". He told his people that coca was authentic to their culture, not hydrocarbons. He was egged on by Chavez and Euro NGOs, which is grotesque if you think about it, an OPEC leader warning the poorest country in the world away from going into oil and gas production.

He is neither the first nor the last gangster to rule that country. Sadly, he put an end to what was a moment of hope for Bolivia. He is not a departure from their history, he is more of the same.


38 posted on 05/02/2006 9:27:51 AM PDT by marron
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To: Grendel9

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39 posted on 05/02/2006 11:05:54 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: Grendel9

So should they blow the wellheads and the facilities when they leave?


40 posted on 05/02/2006 3:24:49 PM PDT by HogFixer
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