[blueberry12]

I am not saying that things are good the way they are.

But illegal immigrants are not the cause of the problem.

The problem is that we have a system which allows one person to take benefits from the other. You can live for free just because someone else pays your medical bills. This system is called socialism, and this is what is bad!

[Myrddin]

The problem is that we have a system which allows one person to take benefits from the other. You can live for free just because someone else pays your medical bills. This system is called socialism, and this is what is bad!

The illegals wouldn't be here if they could not sponge off the free medical care, government welfare programs and free schooling. Add the "motor voter" BS and you have non-citizens voting for Democrats who want more socialist programs to bring more non-citizens in to vote for them. Cut off the birthright citizenship and welfare programs. Purge the voter rolls and require proof of citizenship to register to vote.

[stompk]

"But illegal immigrants are not the cause of the problem.

The problem is that we have a system which allows one person to take benefits from the other. You can live for free just because someone else pays your medical bills. This system is called socialism, and this is what is bad!"

you bring up a great point. separate argument, but accurate.
if we fixed that problem, most or all of the others would indeed go away.

however we still require immigration control, and we need to ensure that those who would come here would follow our laws and assimilate. those who would not, must go.

even if they could not get welfare, schooling, medical and state support, they still require policing, fire department, road use and the 100's of other things that we pay for with taxes.