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To: backtothestreets
An ever increasing number of people believe a wall limiting illegal immigration will afford our nation protection. It will not. Iran would only need to smuggle large dirty bombs into Mexican cities that border our nation and detonate them at an optimum time. Prevailing wind currents would carry the deadly radiation into large areas of our nation and potentially effect up to a fifth of our population.

As bad as that would be, I still think it would be greatly preferable to a bomb actually going off in one of our cities. Furthermore, the prospect of it happening would give Mexico more of an incentive to keep out seedy characters from the Middle East.

Of course, I agree with you that the ultimate solution has to be a reform of Mexico's corruption (not to mention ousting the mullahs from Iran as well), but don't think that a security fence won't be a big help in the meantime.

18 posted on 04/29/2006 7:30:00 PM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: inquest
As bad as that would be, I still think it would be greatly preferable to a bomb actually going off in one of our cities. Furthermore, the prospect of it happening would give Mexico more of an incentive to keep out seedy characters from the Middle East.

Many years ago while in the military I was required to study the differing effects of nuclear weapons using various applications. These included air, surface, and subsurface detonations depending on the desired result. The studies included both surface water and land, when to bomb upwind, and when to bomb downwind.

One of the study experiments had a large city separated from great areas of population by a large body of water. Bombing the city would absolutely destroy the city, but leave the great populations mostly unscathed. Bombing just beneath the surface of the water, and very close to the major city would cause immeasurable damage to the city, and the airborne radioactive water particles would cause great causalities to the population across the body of water. Desert particles would have much the same effect as water particles, except they hold radiation much longer.

I haven't looked, but wouldn't doubt these applications are available on the Internet.

What surprised many people was that detonating such a weapon within a city may not produce the optimum effect a bomb outside a city can produce.

Contemplate the border bomb scenario for a bit. Vast stretches of our border with Mexico is sandy soil that would become both radioactive, easily airborne and that would be carried high and far into the atmosphere, and with prevailing wind currents, deep into our nation from the American Southwest to the Gulf State, Lower Mississippi Valley, and the Mid and Southern Atlantic States. It would create a dead zone that would prohibit future illegal immigration across our southern border, but equally dead for our citizens wanting to reside there or work there. Chernobyl would be forgotten as the greatest nuclear disaster.

As devastating as a nuclear bomb in a major city would be, the buildings and infrastructure hamper the spread of radioactive particles far beyond the city because concrete and asphalt do not make ideal particles for spreading radiation into the atmosphere.

To the latter thought of keeping seedy characters out of Mexico, either it is not happening with regularity, or a number of sources cited in the article are blowing smoke when they say Muslim terrorists have already come through our southern border. Because corruption is so rampart in Mexican society due to the corrupt government, stopping the terrorists at our border, but not eradicating the corruption that gives them access to Mexican soil would simply have the terrorists strike from as close as possible, and that is along the border. Mexico is our underbelly, and it is both soft and extremely vulnerable.

Please don't feel I am at odds with you. I just wanted you to see a little further into the problem that already exists. We are in complete agreement about a need for reform to a corrupt Mexico.
19 posted on 04/29/2006 10:15:00 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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