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To: big'ol_freeper

How is that?


172 posted on 04/28/2006 7:38:07 PM PDT by restornu (Earnestly it is impossible for man to walk with God, and also maintain the humor of a reprobate!)
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To: restornu
First of all let me say that I did not say the LDS Church approves of abortion, but that their stance on it is weak. Let me also say that Mormons in general are as pro-life as any religious group.

"The Church opposes abortion and counsels its members not to submit to or perform an abortion except in the rare cases where, in the opinion of competent medical counsel, the life or good health of the mother is seriously endangered or where the pregnancy was caused by rape and produces serious emotional trauma in the mother. Even then it should be done only after counseling with the local presiding priesthood authorityand after receiving divine confirmation through prayer.

You start with the premise that human life is a gift from God and that all human life is sacred, and that the taking of life thru abortion is killing that which was created by God. When you make an exception you are allowing for the purposeful killing of that which God created. Some very good pro-life people would argue for allowing abortion when the life of the mother is at stake (and I understand that argument), but this is inconsistent with the pro-life position. When you add in the "good health" clause you basically open up abortion to anyone who can get a doctor to say that the pregnancy will negatively impact the "good health" (mental etc.) of the mother. When you add the "rape clause", again you are saying it is ok to murder a pre-born under certain circumstances, and this is wrong. It then allows the decision to be made between the mother and the local bishop after prayer. This last clause is extremely perilous because it allows the decision to abort to be made by individuals (God does not confirm a decision to murder). That sounds like "choice" to me.

Compare the LDS position with the Catholic Church position and I think you will see why I say the LDS position is weak. The Catholic Church has always condemned abortion as a grave evil. Christian writers from the first-century author of the Didache to Pope John Paul II in his encyclical Evangelium Vitae ("The Gospel of Life") have maintained that the Bible forbids abortion, just as it forbids murder.

In 1995 Pope John Paul II declared that the Church’s teaching on abortion "is unchanged and unchangeable. Therefore, by the authority which Christ conferred upon Peter and his successors, I declare that direct abortion, that is, abortion willed as an end or as a means, always constitutes a grave moral disorder, since it is the deliberate killing of an innocent human being. This doctrine is based upon the natural law and upon the written word of God, is transmitted by the Church’s tradition and taught by the ordinary and universal magisterium. No circumstance, no purpose, no law whatsoever can ever make licit an act which is intrinsically illicit, since it is contrary to the law of God which is written in every human heart, knowable by reason itself, and proclaimed by the Church" (Evangelium Vitae 62).

206 posted on 04/29/2006 5:26:17 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (..it takes some pretty serious yodeling to..filibuster from a five star ski resort in the Swiss Alps)
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