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Religion may hinder Romney in '08
Chicago Sun Times ^

Posted on 04/28/2006 1:47:54 PM PDT by SDGOP

Prominent, respectable Evangelical Christians have told me, not for quotation, that millions of their co-religionists cannot and will not vote for Romney for president solely because he is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. If Romney is nominated and their abstention results in the election of Hillary Rodham Clinton, that's just too bad. The evangelicals are adamant, saying there is no way Romney can win them over.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ldschurch; mittromney; mormon; moron2008; novotesformassholes; religioustest; rinotoblamereligion; romney; romney2008; romneyisrepubdukakis; romneytherino
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To: ohioWfan
but nothing would keep me from voting for him against a RAT.

I'm right there with you.

81 posted on 04/28/2006 2:34:23 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody! --- FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
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To: mbraynard
I'm sure you are a swell guy but most athiests are a pretty despicable lot.

I am neither a guy nor an atheist. I merely posed the question.

82 posted on 04/28/2006 2:36:20 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody! --- FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
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To: oldsalt

Romney's Mormonism does not rule him out for me.

But it is perfectly legitimate to consider a person's religion when evaluating his character, values, and way of thinking.

That's not bigotry.


83 posted on 04/28/2006 2:37:47 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: Glenn
They are both "made up" religions

Thanks for the laugh......sometimes the sheer ignorance of things does that.

Hint: if you don't want your "knowledge" disturbed, don't take advantage of the histories in books, information on the Internet, etc, - There's been a lot of "making up" and killing and burying and denigrating, and denying and rewriting etc for 2000 years.

Where to start? I shan't. Far be it for me to cause anyone to be confused with facts.

84 posted on 04/28/2006 2:38:40 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time," Lincoln)
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To: mbraynard

As a secular right winger I will vote for him above McCain and Rudy in the primanys, and for sure in the general.


85 posted on 04/28/2006 2:38:41 PM PDT by Paul8148
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To: SDGOP
Prominent, respectable Evangelical Christians have told me, not for quotation, that millions of their co-religionists cannot and will not vote for Romney for president solely because he is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. If Romney is nominated and their abstention results in the election of Hillary Rodham Clinton, that's just too bad. The evangelicals are adamant, saying there is no way Romney can win them over.

TRANSLATION: "My friends in the media told me that they will paint anyone of faith as a religious nutter....and they'll vote for Hillary regardless of who runs on the GOP ticket".

86 posted on 04/28/2006 2:39:28 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Donald Meaker

87 posted on 04/28/2006 2:39:28 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname
"My gut tells me that he is pro-life because he's a Mormon.."

While that statement is true of the average Mormon, the LDS Church position on abortion is pretty weak. It leaves the decision of whether to have an abortion or not to the counsel of the LDS bishop.

88 posted on 04/28/2006 2:40:25 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (..it takes some pretty serious yodeling to..filibuster from a five star ski resort in the Swiss Alps)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

What a totally dumb post and a waste of bandwidth.


89 posted on 04/28/2006 2:41:08 PM PDT by onyx (MARY MC CHRISTMAS everybody! --- FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
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To: maine-iac7
Whelll ... that was an interesting post. And it completes the mix. People who dislike Mormons but would vote for Romney, people who like Mormons and would vote for Romney, people who dislike Mormons and will vote against Romney, and you...

Defending Mormons and then saying you would vote against Romney.

There are issues with applying generalities - even true ones - to an individual. You can't really learn much about Romney by applying generalities - good or bad - about Mormons. But what you can do is look at Romney as an individual and in the context of why he chooses to be a Mormon and how and why he carries out it's practices.

90 posted on 04/28/2006 2:42:00 PM PDT by mbraynard (I don't even HAVE a mustache!)
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To: SDGOP

Religion Liberalism may hinder Romney in '08

Pro-abortion, pro-gay, bad on judges, anti-gun, wishy-washy flip-flopper. See my FR page for some of the details.

91 posted on 04/28/2006 2:42:01 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: maine-iac7
Far be it for me to cause anyone to be confused with facts.

Having turned away dozens of Mormon missionaries from my door over the years, I feel I have some expertise in the matter. At least as much as the next guy who turned dozens of Mormon boys away from his door.

92 posted on 04/28/2006 2:42:03 PM PDT by Glenn (There is a looming Tupperware shortage. Plan appropriately.)
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To: SDGOP

There would be reasons for me not to vote for him, but religious persuasion would not be one of them.


93 posted on 04/28/2006 2:44:13 PM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: rlmorel

LOL, as the only non Dem in a passionate family of Democrats, ditto!


94 posted on 04/28/2006 2:44:46 PM PDT by bordergal
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To: SDGOP

I actually am LDS and am unsure about Romney. His stance on many things seems too liberal for me.


95 posted on 04/28/2006 2:46:12 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: SDGOP

Romneys most significant weakness in national electoral scene is that his "power base" is in the NorthEast, a region which almost assuredly will vote for ANY Democrat in the 2008 race.

His pitch appears to be that he's a "problem-solver thru innovative thinking." That pitch didn't work for Lamar Alexander and to a lesser extent Jack Kemp. I think this approach to the electorate in Republican Primaries has flaws.

As an aside, the claim that the LDS belief system is "the same as other Protestant Christian sects" is disagreed with by both Mormons and most Protestant Christian sects.

One of Joseph Smith's early statements on the founding of the church was that an Angel told him the current Christian sects were _WRONG_. So Mormons should surely disagree that they are the "same."



96 posted on 04/28/2006 2:46:39 PM PDT by ER_in_OC,CA
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To: MineralMan
That said, there are those, even on this site, who would never vote for a member of the LDS church for President. Occasionally, there is some pretty nasty stuff said about the Mormons here, sad to say

We have the same problem with some people in Arizona. Which is why we ended up with a Clinton clone as our governor.

97 posted on 04/28/2006 2:47:17 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: SDGOP

Couldn't care what his religion is. He's a RINO. That is why I wouldn't vote for him. Not even if Hillary was running on the other ticket. I'd vote either Constitution or Libertarian.


98 posted on 04/28/2006 2:47:55 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: Oliver Optic
But it is perfectly legitimate to consider a person's religion when evaluating his character, values, and way of thinking.

Absolutely. For example, if a candidate based his beliefs on Catholicism we'd already be in agreement or only modest but amicable disagreement on a vast array of things, being co-religionists. But a "Catholic" like Kerry or Kennedy puts aside his nominal religion, for whatever reason, to embrace liberalism (as Romney has done). So their religion's values don't come through, and I would never vote for them.

99 posted on 04/28/2006 2:51:15 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: trubluolyguy

I see your point...
but then, there are radical
Christians who would continue
to turn the cheek towards those
who revile and persecute them;
there are "soft spoken" Christians
who do NOT love their enemies; and
there are those Christians who
proclaim, "If you tolerate another
religion, you are negligent of your own!"

All that said, re Mr. Romney...most
people A Born-Again Christian, Pres. Bush sees
good in any religion that points the way
toward the One God. Not all Muslims
follow the nth word of the Qu'ran;
neither do all Christians follow Bible
teachings, nor all Jews follow the letter
of the Torah.

Admittedly, most Born-Again Christians tend
to be a bit boisterous in their "new clothes."
And those of us who hear them proclaim, "I've
found Jesus!" mumble under our breath at the
proclamation...since WE NEVER LOST HIM. NTL,
we can all be assured the Heavens rejoice as
the lost sheep and Prodigals are brought back
into the fold. <>g<>


100 posted on 04/28/2006 2:51:52 PM PDT by Grendel9 (u ()
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