"Ah - incidentally, it was not Russians but the First Ukrainian Front that was thrown into the breech by Stalin (as they were in Stalingrad too)."
LMAO!!! Spannie - surely even YOU know that the "fronts" were named in accordance to what they were going to defend and NOT by who manned the divisions. Or, are you saying that Marshals Zhukov and Konev (Ukrainian Front commanders) were Ukrainian? Thanks for the laugh - evidently you fell into your own trap "Ukrainian" good, everything else bad! Here is spannie endorsing the Soviet Army!!!
How about rooting for America every once and a while? Or is your Ukraine just way too important that you have to put America in second place?
Another lie about the "great losses" suffered by the "Russians " during WWII.
It was all Poles and Ukrainians that bore the brunt of WWII.
But don't let the facts get in the way.
http://www.infoukes.com/history/ww2/page-29.html
He's also curiously silent about all the Ukranians who served in the Wermacht, SS, and as Concentration Camp guards, etc. Thousands of them. Of course, this will be explained away probably along the lines of "they were forced to" or somesuch nonsense. Those people have just as much blood on their hands as Hitler does, perhaps even more since they actually did the killing.
I've got news for you: Ukraine existed only as a geographic region when it became, or was absorbed into, THE SOVIET UNION. After that, there were no Russians, Ukranians, Tatars, etc, only SOVIET CITIZENS. While it's true that many proudly considered themselves Ukranian first, Soviet Second, the opposite is also true. I'm pretty sure just as many Ukranians gladly took up arms to defend the "Rodina" as were opposed to Stalin, probably even more.
Just as there were committed Ukranian Communists, there were also committed Ukranian fascists. It was a common disease across Europe at the time; a true admiration for Hitler and Mussolini that had it's adherants in every nation on the continent. I doubt all Ukranians were immune to the lure of Hitler, and how many actually greeted the German army as liberators?