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President Tancredo? Just Maybe, If You Believe This Poll
Human Events Online ^ | 04/27/06 | Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 04/27/2006 3:17:35 PM PDT by VU4G10

A new poll from Rasmussen Reports has some bad news for Republicans—well, almost all Republicans. If you’re Rep. Tom Tancredo (R.-Colo.), the news couldn’t be better.

While a generic Republican candidate trails a generic Democrat by 12 percentage points, according to the poll, a third-party candidate who runs on a get-tough-on-immigration platform not only beats the Republican, but also actually runs even with the Democrat. Here’s an excerpt:

The survey also asked respondents how they would vote if "a third party candidate ran in 2008 and promised to build a barrier along the Mexican border and make enforcement of immigration law his top priority."

With that option, support fell sharply for both major parties. The Democrats still come out on top with support from 31% of Americans. The third party candidate moved into a virtual tie at 30% while the GOP fell to 21%.

If anyone fits Rasmussen’s description it’s Tancredo, who has made a very public name for himself as the anti-illegal-immigration crusader in Congress. And having spent time in both Iowa and New Hampshire beginning last year, he’s posited himself to be the candidate who could play spoiler.

Coming back to reality for just one moment, I should note the rest of the Rasmussen commentary about the poll numbers:

This result probably reflects unhappiness with both parties on the immigration issue rather than a true opportunity for a third party. Historically, issues that drive third party candidates get co-opted by one of the major parties as they demonstrate popular appeal. Most Americans favor a barrier along the border and enforcement of existing law prior to other reforms.

With the immigration issue candidate as an option, 36% of conservative voters opt for the Republican candidate while 35% take the third party option. Among political moderates, 34% pick the Democrat while 32% prefer the third party option.

I’d recommend reading the full Rasmussen summary as well as my post last night about the new Diageo/Hotline poll on Democrats.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: circularfiringsquad; donnerparty; friendsofhillary; onetrickpony; singleissuevoters; tancredo2008; unappeaseables
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To: Howlin
Like this? Not unless I really want to throw away everything we've worked for for years.

And what would that be? The right of members of your party to, as Limbaugh put it so piquantly during the Clinton era, "rule contrary to the will of the people"?

Don't worry, Howlin: if that's what you've been working for for years, it's going to be thrown away for you, and you won't even see it coming.

141 posted on 04/27/2006 6:36:12 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Map Kernow
How about a bunch of polls like this.

The Bushies don't get it. The Bush-Bots don't get it either. This President and this Congress are destroying the Republican Party. The GOP that conservatives worked so hard to build into a majority party, the party of Goldwater, Reagan, Newt and the 94 GOP Congress, is slipping away.

142 posted on 04/27/2006 6:36:59 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: altura

Yes, but you wouldn't believe me

Anyway your tagline describes you, does that mean we should question you, ridicule you? Which?


143 posted on 04/27/2006 6:39:07 PM PDT by JustPiper (It is all about Stupidity Stupid!)
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To: Howlin
really want to throw away everything we've worked for for years

Bush is kicking away his base

144 posted on 04/27/2006 6:39:45 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: exhaustedmomma

BS.


145 posted on 04/27/2006 6:47:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: altura
I just don't understand the sudden panic and frantic search for someone to blame or vote for or .....

It's not really sudden or even what could be called panic, altura. It has been simmering for quite a few years now and is only now coming to a boil for several reasons, IMO:

Now we are told that great progress is being made in Afghanistan and Iraq. The WOT is being handled and we are winning. In the meantime, people who voted for President Bush (and thus for his appointees) and worked hard to ensure that he was reelected to a second term and even fought some of his outlying battles for him so he could devote himself to the more important issues...have been observing the issue of illegal immigration in their home communities.

They may have read the stories about false IDs and drivers licenses on the increase in their hometown. They may have tried to find employment and discover that they didn't get the job because they don't speak Spanish. They may have noticed their neighbors have a two-bedroom house but 15 people reside in it. They may have gone to a hospital for emergency medical care and realized how the level of service has greatly declined because the number of patients has increased but the number of payees comes nowhere near that. Those are just a few examples of major changes that have happened while our attention was elsewhere.

Yeah, now it's an election year. Yeah, oil prices are heading upward. Yeah, Roseann Roseannadanna was right..."It's always something." Unfortunately, we have MILLIONS of lawbreakers affecting our economy, our way of life, even our form of government. Yeah, I know George W. Bush is a 'compassionate' 'conservative' --- and I knew that when I voted for him. I knew he was 'compassionate' toward our neighbors to the south. But when it comes to the threat to justice and the American way, he must forgo some of that compassion and stand up for principle and our Constitution. (Let President Fox take care of protecting the people of his country.)

It is now time for President Bush to do his duty and honor his oath by protecting us from the threat to our homeland in just as forceful a way as he has been doing in the WOT.

146 posted on 04/27/2006 6:53:30 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: skeeter
How do you answer my question? No non-sequitors please.

I'd be very pleased to answer whichever questions you pose, within my ability to answer.

I took the question in #129 as one of rhetoric, not one to answer directly. Thus my oblique reply.

147 posted on 04/27/2006 6:55:24 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: Howlin
May 1 protest aims to "close" cities
..."We want full amnesty, full legalization for anybody who is here (illegally)," Rodriguez said. "That is the message that is going to be played out across the country on May 1."...

Sleep through that, too.

148 posted on 04/27/2006 6:57:08 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: altura
Has immigration really become the most important thing in the world to everyone, or is this temporary insanity??

Yeah, you'd have to be crazy not to want this in every U.S. city.


149 posted on 04/27/2006 6:57:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: exhaustedmomma

Why are you posting that to me? Aren't there enough people around here for you to talk to?


150 posted on 04/27/2006 6:57:54 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: VU4G10

This might be a great election for a 3rd party candidate to win since most Americans are just fed up with politics. While the GOP isn't getting any props from the public, the Dims aren't either as people know what they'll get there.

Could be interesting!

I'd vote for Tancredo as a 3PC.


151 posted on 04/27/2006 7:00:08 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: logician2u
Here it is more directly. You implied that all the common sense reasons given, ad nauseum, for opposing illegal immigration are really a smokescreen for "xenophobia".

I'm giving you the benefit of a doubt and assuming this wasn't meant as a crude ad hominum (perhaps I'm being too charitable).

How did you arrive at this conclusion?

152 posted on 04/27/2006 7:00:15 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: altura
Has immigration really become the most important thing in the world to everyone, or is this temporary insanity??

That's like being at a picnic and asking why everyone's running over to the drowning boy while the meats on the grill are burning.

If Tancredo fixed the borders and did nothing else, I'd be all over it. Clinton did things and I wish he'd been entirely idle.

153 posted on 04/27/2006 7:02:17 PM PDT by Fruitbat
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To: Fruitbat
That's like being at a picnic and asking why everyone's running over to the drowning boy while the meats on the grill are burning.

Classic. Thanks for the laugh...

154 posted on 04/27/2006 7:04:05 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: sinkspur; altura
[Sistani]is determined to shut down the militias, and told fat boy al-Sadr to disband his, immediately.

Pshaw! Who cares? Bush has never done anything right ever.

He signed onto Kyoto and ruined the economy. He capitulated to the ABM treaty and now NorthKorea has taunted us by launching missiles into the waters off Seattle. Bush let Saddam get out of sanctions and boldly smashed the Kurds. Then, Bush appointed two imbecilic idiots to the Supreme Court that are left of Al Franken.

Screw Bush! I'm voting for Hillary this very Friday to teach him a lesson he won't forget! If there's no voting booth ready, by golly I'll go punch someone named Chad!

155 posted on 04/27/2006 7:07:52 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: JustPiper

You can question me, but please don't ridicule me. It hurts!

I have no idea what you are talking about anyway, I never posted to you that I know of.


156 posted on 04/27/2006 7:09:24 PM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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To: VU4G10
While a generic Republican candidate trails a generic Democrat by 12 percentage points, according to the poll, a third-party candidate who runs on a get-tough-on-immigration platform not only beats the Republican, but also actually runs even with the Democrat. Here’s an excerpt: The survey also asked respondents how they would vote if "a third party candidate ran in 2008 and promised to build a barrier along the Mexican border and make enforcement of immigration law his top priority." With that option, support fell sharply for both major parties. The Democrats still come out on top with support from 31% of Americans. The third party candidate moved into a virtual tie at 30% while the GOP fell to 21%.

This poll doesn't ask what if Tancredo was the Republican nominee.

Instead it pushes Republican Tancredo as a third party candidate.

157 posted on 04/27/2006 7:11:12 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Fruitbat
I'd vote for Tancredo as a 3PC.

You gotta support what the poll tells you to support. Right?

158 posted on 04/27/2006 7:12:35 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Howlin
Why are you posting that to me? Aren't there enough people around here for you to talk to?
Because you said:

really want to throw away everything we've worked for for years

It just breaks my heart at what is being thrown away here. And for what?


159 posted on 04/27/2006 7:13:43 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (Calling illegal alien an undocumented immigrant is like calling a burglar an uninvited house guest)
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To: exhaustedmomma

You are obsessively overrought with this issue.


160 posted on 04/27/2006 7:14:45 PM PDT by Howlin
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