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To: hosepipe
Ockhams Razor DEMANDS that there is a shadow givernment

Not exactly, Ockhams Occam's Razor demands the simplest explanation is generally the correct answer. In this case, I believe the simplest is that there is a lot of bitter people doing what they can do undercut the President. A 'Shadow Government' is not even close to a simple explanation. Not saying it isn't true, but it is a little 'far fetched'.

442 posted on 04/24/2006 11:21:11 AM PDT by mnehring (My Ramblings- http://abaraxas.blogspot.com)
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To: mnehrling
A 'Shadow Government' is not even close to a simple explanation. Not saying it isn't true, but it is a little 'far fetched'.

George Noory has been saying that for years... but I don't think he's on the same wavelength as we are.

448 posted on 04/24/2006 11:23:51 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (DemocRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: mnehrling; hosepipe

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.... The Shadow Party

Journalists first started using the term "shadow party" in 2003 to describe the network of leftwing NGOs, activist Web sites, Section 527 "stealth PACs," public employee unions and radical foundations which Democrat activists used to circumvent McCain-Feingold in the 2004 campaign. Working independently of the Democratic Party, these private groups managed to raise a record $300 million in political contributions for Democrats running in 2004.

The Shadow Party has gotten a fair amount of press. However, most reporters failed to describe it accurately. They characterized the Shadow Party as a loose network of private groups that arose more or less spontaneously from grassroots America. Nothing could have been further from the truth.

The Shadow Party is a top-down creation. George Soros founded it, organized it and runs it to this day, through a tightly-integrated, corporate-style command structure. Soros fulfills a role in the Shadow Party comparable to that of chairman of the board, while former Clinton deputy chief of staff Harold Ickes serves as de facto CEO.

It took years of patient sleuthing to penetrate the Shadow Party’s secrets — a research effort led by conservative activist David Horowitz, who heads the Center for the Study of Popular Culture (CSPC) in Los Angeles. Much of this research can now be found at DiscovertheNetwork.org — a searchable, online database of the organized left which Horowitz launched in February 2005.

DiscovertheNetwork.org illuminates the intricate personal and financial relationships binding leftwing organizations together. While compiling this database, Horowitz and his team uncovered the hidden command structure that drives Soros’ Shadow Party.

As one of the researchers on that team, I worked with Horowitz to follow the money trail and identify the specific levers of control by which Soros steers his Shadow Party. Horowitz and I co-wrote a three-part exposé published on the CSPC Web site FrontPageMagazine.com in October 2004. In it, we revealed that Soros administers his network through a core group of seven non-profit organizations, which we named the Seven Sisters. They are, in alphabetical order: America Coming Together; America Votes; Center for American Progress; Joint Victory Campaign 2004; The Media Fund; MoveOn.org; and the Thunder Road Group.

Through these Seven Sisters, Soros and his team convey money, information and marching orders down the line to a much larger network encompassing radical public employee unions, leftwing foundations and street-level activist groups.

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467 posted on 04/24/2006 11:33:27 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: mnehrling
[ Not exactly, Ockhams Occam's Razor demands the simplest explanation is generally the correct answer. In this case, I believe the simplest is that there is a lot of bitter people doing what they can do undercut the President. A 'Shadow Government' is not even close to a simple explanation. Not saying it isn't true, but it is a little 'far fetched'. ]

So THEN, you do not believe that Bush is PART of the shadow givernment?... Clue: If there was a shadow givernment BUSH would HAVE to part of it.. Thats HOW he became President..

Another clue; Importing massive quantites of proto democrats as illegal and legal aliens is the ONLY thing the democrats and Bush agree on.. well there are few other minor things like increasing BIG GIVERMENT.. Why? would a republican President be FOR (importing) multi millions of NEW DEMOCRATS.. Why?.. A pregnant question.. i.e. because the shadow givernment WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN..

468 posted on 04/24/2006 11:33:49 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: mnehrling
The events we see unfolding with the various groups undermining Pres Bush at all levels of government have to be coordinated. Otherwise they would just surface as disgruntled individuals. They all need an umbrella to huddle under so the media can cast them as viable and honorable protesters. I have heard more than one radio commentator make a point of saying they did not think this was a conspiracy. Well, concluding otherwise is not possible for me. I am a practical person and would not discredit another conclusion by anybody, especially those vulnerable to accusations of being conspiracy theorists. IMO, the Razor is just a rule of thumb, not a fact written in stone.
499 posted on 04/24/2006 12:59:40 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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