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William Kristol Wonders (Seriously) What Harm Illegal Aliens Have Done....
The American View ^ | John Lofton

Posted on 04/23/2006 9:28:43 PM PDT by Jeremydmccann

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To: Jeremydmccann

While the crime rate is down over the last 20 years, the folk doing the crime is increasingly from the body of illegals.

Imagine the crime rate if the illegal situation is resolved.


121 posted on 04/24/2006 8:56:12 AM PDT by Jim Verdolini (We had it all, but the RINOs stalked the land and everything they touched was as dung and ashes!)
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To: Tribune7
Well, turns out I was drastically wrong.. Here's a chart of labor force participation rates, 1980 - 2006, quarterly seasonally adjusted...

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As you can see, in the last eight years, it fell through the floor. Now, you were correct in what you quoted - which was the unemployment rate for 16-19 - the way that's figured is for those who desire a job, are actively seeking a job, and have performed a job seeking function within the last 10 days.

I like looking at the labor force participation rates since that shows how many are actually employed (in any fashion.) It isn't 50% of our youth without employment, it's more than 55%.
122 posted on 04/24/2006 9:05:05 AM PDT by kingu (Yeah, I'll vote in 2006, just as soon as a party comes along who listens.)
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To: Jeremydmccann

Kristal to public RE the Illegals: "Put some ice on that and get over it."


123 posted on 04/24/2006 9:10:24 AM PDT by citizen (Yo W! Read my lips: No Amnistia by any name! And the White House has a fence around it!)
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To: Tribune7
No, actually, it hasn't gotten better at all. I've lived here all my life and in the 70's you could leave both your car and your house unlocked. Crime may have been higher along the border cities, but Phoenix was relatively safe. South Phoenix was the only crime zone (both my brothers were policemen). Now, however, crime is moving into some of the most established neighborhoods in the city.

I now sleep with a loaded gun beside my bed since two of my neighbors have been raped recently (both elderly, raped, beaten and robbed). The crime statistics for my neighborhood have soared lately to the point where the policeman who is in charge of our blockwatch meetings just shakes his head when it comes to report time.

The only places that are now safe are some of the outlying, highest priced neighborhoods and even they are beginning to be infiltrated with crack houses and illegal alien "safe" houses.

124 posted on 04/24/2006 9:16:11 AM PDT by McGavin999 (The US media is afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder)
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To: kingu
So because fewer kids today are looking for jobs they are "unemployed".

You don't think it has something to do with, just maybe, they are getting their cellphones, Xbox games etc. without needing jobs?

125 posted on 04/24/2006 9:19:31 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7

Oh yeah, and one of the other delightful little gifts that keeps on giving is an upsurge in anti-biotic resistant TB. TB was wiped out in Arizona sometime back in the early 60's, but it's back and it's deadly.


126 posted on 04/24/2006 10:28:21 AM PDT by McGavin999 (The US media is afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder)
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To: KeyLargo

"Kristol belongs on CNN."

Exactly!


127 posted on 04/24/2006 10:54:03 AM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: McGavin999

Yes, and Chicago, Cook County is no longer concerned about TB!

State set to eliminate Cook County TB district

April 10, 2006

BY STEVE PATTERSON Staff Reporter

One of those tiny, puzzling slices of your suburban property tax pie is on the verge of disappearing.

Last week, the state Senate passed a measure that would eliminate the Suburban Cook County Tuberculosis Sanitarium District, folding its operations into the county's existing programs at the Public Health Department.

Legislators and others are optimistic the bill also will pass in the House.

Suburban Chicago is the last major metropolitan area to support a TB taxing district -- something critics say should have gone away decades ago.

"There's no reason Cook County should be living in the 1950s on this," said state Rep. Elaine Nekritz (D-Northbrook), who is sponsoring the bill. "This is about good, efficient government."

TB districts were formed in the 1940s because of outbreaks from a disease passed through the air by coughing or sneezing, largely by immigrants from countries with lesser immunization programs.

A strong immunization push led most areas to eliminate TB taxing districts and fold operations into existing health departments.

No organized opposition

Suburban county taxpayers this year are paying about $6 for every $100,000 in assessed valuation to support five offices, which treat about 130 new cases a year.

Cook County Board President John Stroger -- who appoints all five TB board members -- began the fight to eliminate the district two years ago, amid a power struggle with former board members and a former director of what was then a $6 million government.

Part of the spending went to lobbyists to fight to keep it alive.

Now, with a new director, board members and budget of about $3.5 million, there is no funding for lobbyists, meaning there is no organized opposition to the bill.

Dr. Stephen Martin, a new board member who also runs the county's health department, said the county "can integrate TB care with other services" to provide better overall care for patients.

Last week, state Sen. Don Harmon (D-Oak Park) led a 59-0 passage through the Senate, and state Rep. Barbara Flynn Currie (D-Chicago), chairwoman of the House rules committee where the bill now sits, said she's optimistic it will pass this time. "I don't know of any opposition," she said. "So that should mean we have a pretty good start."

spatterson@suntimes.com


128 posted on 04/24/2006 12:12:49 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: NormsRevenge
Is the crime rate up the last 20 years? Tell that to all those who lost family members to drunk and drugged up illegals, Bill.

I disagree with Kristol, but you make a bad argument. It's vague and anecdotal. You could say the same thing about drunk and drugged up native born Americans. If you want to make that argument, bring in some statistics.

BTW, I don't see a big crime wave in the US:



From US DOJ Bureau of Justice Statistics
129 posted on 04/27/2006 4:44:58 PM PDT by billybudd
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